On Aug 2, 2025, at 00:57, Michael De Roover <ietf@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > my MUAs do not always show me List-Id. […] Apple Mail does not. It sure does if you want: Settings ➔ Viewing ➔ Show message headers: Custom… Unfortunately, the content of that field is ridiculously long, so it takes too much screen real-estate: List-Id: "IETF-Discussion. This is the most general IETF mailing list, intended for discussion of technical, procedural, operational, and other topics for which no dedicated mailing lists exist." <ietf.ietf.org> I don’t think I’ll keep the setting that shows it. This discussion is yet another instance of “I don’t know how to use X and I cannot imagine how I would use X so X must be destroyed for everyone” noise. Clearly, there are people who get good use out of [xxx], and if anything it should be reenabled on the lists where it isn’t. Grüße, Carsten
