On Saturday, 2 August 2025 00:57:14 CEST Michael De Roover wrote: [...] > Anyway, for sorting email, what I do myself is to give everyone that asks > for an email, one encoded as [provider goes here]@nixmagic.com. So that's > how ietf@xxxxxxxxxxxx came to be. That can just as well be sorted on.. but > that's local policy, which not everyone uses. That it more or less requires > catch-all or very hands-on server management is a major turn-off, and > rightfully so. Most people just stick with one email address for the most > part instead. At the risk of making a fool of myself by replying to.. yes, yours truly... So these email addresses are about 200 so far, and are best maintained in a password manager. I use Pass because it has good Git integration, and has known ciphers in its arsenal, which are easy to verify. 200 passwords, and mails that may one day help turn my catch-all into a "proper" mail server running 3 instances of Postfix. It is possible to do this locally. Mail service, mail management, and password management in such domain-oriented setup... it is possible. But it is neither easy nor straightforward. That is something I wish to change. I have so far created discourse in Mailsec about this for the following headers: MAIL FROM, From: RCPT TO, To: I believe these should be the same values, with mailing lists as exceptions to that. I am aware of bounces, and would like mailing lists to keep operating on that premise. But I do not want mailing lists to enable sextortion mails to proliferate. Those pretend that they originate from the sender, and exploit the assumption of the server that the RCPT TO does not deserve to be seen by the MUA or its user. That should change. > Locally, we can enact all the policies we want, and then try to remain > compatible with everyone else that does the same. I think these subject > injections should be treated as token gestures of kindness, that make it > easier for everyone to use that as a sorting anchor if they don't have one > of their own. And considering that just about every mailing list does this, > not just IETF's... Probably a bit of an uphill battle? -- Met vriendelijke groet, Michael De Roover Mail: ietf@xxxxxxxxxxxx Web: michael.de.roover.eu.org Activisme is pas nuttig, wanneer het kan bereiken wat het wenst te bereiken, binnen de limieten van het huidige systeem. De rest is geschiedenis. -- vim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
