Re: [123attendees] Re: [Recentattendees] Re: [123all] IETF 123 Final Agenda

Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo <carlos@xxxxxxxxxx> · Wed, 2 Jul 2025 11:03:25 -0300



    If we keep adding exclusion criteria we will run out of viable
      venues really quickly. 
    Speaking as someone who really hates hot weather, the weather is
      what it is. Most of us will spend most of the week inside a really
      cold meeting room. We will venture out either very early in the
      morning or when the worst part of day is already done. A short
      walk during lunch break won't kill anyone even if it is 39C
      outside. 
    Madrid heat is legendary, which means that there will be AC
      almost everywhere. 
    Looking forward to this IETF, I've never been to Madrid and I
      have great expectations.
    Now back to work and to the coldest June-July in the last 50
      years here in Uruguay. We had snow and ice on the streets for the
      first time in many many years. 
    /Carlos
    On 2/7/25 9:48 AM, Tim Chown wrote:

    
                On
                  01/07/2025, 09:52, "Ted Hardie"
                  <ted.ietf@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
              
               
                    On
                      Tue, Jul 1, 2025 at 8:11 AM
                      Tim Chown <Tim.Chown=40jisc.ac.uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
                      wrote:
                  
                
                            The heat is
                              setting records in Europe.  The hottest
                              ever first day at the Wimbledon tennis.
                          
                             
                            Madrid in
                              July was always an interesting choice. 
                              Hydration is so important; my best wishes
                              to anyone braving the meeting.
                          
                             
                      It
                        was meant to be a March meeting; it got delayed
                        by Covid.  Unfortunate that it could not have
                        remained a spring meeting, but so it goes.
                       
                      I suspect the venue
                          is cheaper in the summer.
                       
                      Does the meeting
                          selection doc say anything about typical
                          temperatures in the candidate city for
                          selection?  If not, it probably should.
                       
                      Tim
                    
                    
                      Ted
                    
                     
                            Tim
                          
                             
                                    On 30/06/2025, 07:44, "jordi.palet@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx"
                                    <jordi.palet=40consulintel.es@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
                                    wrote:
                                
                                
                                  Note that Madrid is a big city. This
                                  link is reporting a southern area of
                                  the city, which is much hotter.
                                
                                  
                                    The hotel is located in the northern
                                    part of the city, which can mean
                                    3-5C average colder temperatures.
                                  
                                    
                                          Regards,

                                          Jordi

                                          
                                          @jordipalet
                                      
                                    
                                            El 30 jun 2025, a las 6:58,
                                            StJohns, Michael <msj@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> escribió:
                                        
                                        
                                              While 30 day forecasts are
                                              iffy, they tend to be
                                              within 5 degrees
                                              Fahrenheit or so.  This
                                              post made me take a look
                                              ahead and I think Michaels
                                              warnings are timely.  See
                                              below.  Mike
                                          
                                          
                                                https://www.myforecast.com/30-day-forecast.php?cwid=61692&metric=&city_count=&zip_code=&condition=act&data="">

                                            
                                                  On Sun, Jun 29, 2025
                                                  at 18:56 Michael De
                                                  Roover <ietf@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
                                              
                                              
                                                  On Friday, 27 June
                                                  2025 23:42:46 CEST
                                                  IETF Agenda wrote:

                                                  > IETF 123

                                                  > Madrid, Spain

                                                  > July 19-25, 2025

                                                  > Hosted By:
                                                  Ericsson

                                                  
                                                  Hi,

                                                  
                                                  Just wanted to mention
                                                  that Europe is
                                                  currently going
                                                  through a serious heat
                                                  

                                                  wave, easily the most
                                                  severe one I have ever
                                                  seen. I think it also
                                                  qualifies as 

                                                  the most severe since
                                                  measurements began.

                                                  
                                                  Last week (between
                                                  16-24 June), I was in
                                                  northern Portugal.
                                                  While there, and 

                                                  despite my young age
                                                  and comparatively
                                                  forgiving location on
                                                  the peninsula, I 

                                                  had multiple heat
                                                  strokes and on one
                                                  walk with my partner,
                                                  even had my mind go 

                                                  completely blank from
                                                  the heat. It was a
                                                  well-known route, yet
                                                  I couldn't 

                                                  remember any of it
                                                  when she asked at the
                                                  time.

                                                  
                                                  My age is quite young,
                                                  at 28 likely among the
                                                  youngest to be
                                                  participating in 

                                                  the IETF. This is in
                                                  stark contrast with
                                                  the smarter, and more
                                                  importantly 

                                                  older members I
                                                  sometimes read about
                                                  on their Wikipedia and
                                                  Datatracker pages. 

                                                  If you are in your
                                                  senior years and
                                                  intend to go in
                                                  person, please
                                                  consider if 

                                                  you can attend
                                                  remotely. The
                                                  temperatures in
                                                  northern Portugal were
                                                  

                                                  consistently above
                                                  30C, peaking at 38. In
                                                  Madrid, this will be
                                                  higher. So far, 

                                                  it seems that it will
                                                  remain around the 40C
                                                  mark, with even 45
                                                  already being 

                                                  reported elsewhere in
                                                  Spain. I don't think
                                                  it's a stretch to
                                                  consider those 

                                                  deadly.

                                                  
                                                  Organizers, please do
                                                  everything you can to
                                                  accommodate for the
                                                  heat. 

                                                  Especially in the
                                                  afternoon, there
                                                  should be no reason
                                                  for anyone to be 

                                                  outside or away from
                                                  at least fans and a
                                                  steady water supply.
                                                  As far as I 

                                                  know, the tap water in
                                                  Spain is potable.
                                                  Whatever you do, I
                                                  don't want to be 

                                                  responsible for people
                                                  dying. It happens at
                                                  festivals here in
                                                  Belgium too, 

                                                  large events.. are
                                                  just like that
                                                  sometimes, especially
                                                  in extreme heat.

                                                  
                                                  Stay safe.

                                                  
                                                  -- 

                                                  Met vriendelijke
                                                  groet,

                                                  Michael De Roover

                                                  
                                                  Mail: ietf@xxxxxxxxxxxx

                                                  Web: michael.de.roover.eu.org

                                                  
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