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"Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL" <uri@xxxxxxxxxx> · Wed, 2 Jul 2025 14:07:07 +0000

Aren’t we making a bigger deal out of (and spending more time on) this than it deserves?
There are millions of people who live in those places (Madrid, Philadelphia, etc.), who aren’t perfectly healthy - and somehow they manage to survive, do their daily work, and so on. 
Nobody (that I know of) likes when it crosses 40C, but people survive. 

I’d be more worried about the possibility of another blackout. 
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Regards,Uri

Secure Resilient Systems and Technologies
MIT Lincoln Laboratory

On Jul 2, 2025, at 09:47, Michael De Roover <ietf@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On 2 Jul 2025, at 13: 48, Tim Chown <Tim. Chown=40jisc. ac. uk@ dmarc. ietf. org> wrote: > > Does the meeting selection doc say anything about typical temperatures in > > the candidate city for selection? If not, it probably

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> On 2 Jul 2025, at 13:48, Tim Chown <Tim.Chown=40jisc.ac.uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Does the meeting selection doc say anything about typical temperatures in
> > the candidate city for selection?  If not, it probably should.> 
> What could it say?
> 
> What is a "typical temperature"?
> 
> If the idea is to avoid discomfort, whose comfort defines the acceptable
> thresholds and how should those thresholds be measured or predicted?

> That’s of course a fair and tricky question.
> 
> Recent July venues, average and record temps:
> 
> Madrid: 34’C, record 42’C
> Vancouver: 24’C, record 37’C
> San Francisco: 27’C, record 30’C
> Philadelphia: 31’C, record 40’C
> Montreal: 27’C, record 36’C
> Prague: 26’C, record 37’C
> 
> Somewhere that averages over 30’C and has a record over 40’C would be one
> potential exclusion heuristic.
> 
> Of course, the ‘funny’ thing is meeting rooms tend to be super chilly.

I like the idea of addressing this by the 40C threshold, seems like this has some grounding in medical literature too. From a cursory search, I found the article below.

https://neurolaunch.com/brain-overheating-symptoms/

The condition I experienced on that walk too, is apparently called hyperthermia. The brain seems extremely sensitive to it, with disorientation being one of its more mild symptoms, after which, fortunately, we went immediately to shade. But until now I didn't know about this condition. So to give the 40C mark further grounding, it might not be a bad thing to use.

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Michael De Roover

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