Re: ORCID, Identity systems, was Authorship

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Not sure who suggested ORCID-only in author blocks.  (To be clear, I have no objection to permitting ORCIDs.  I think it has been demonstrated that in fact, as an unintended positive side-effect of other things we chose, we already do.)

Please don't go to an ORCIDs-only preferred approach.

I can't stop someone who wants to be obscure from doing that. But as the normal practice, please don't.

1) Note that if I use the alias (e.g draft-name@xxxxxxxx) it will use the dattracker email address.

2) If I am looking at the contact information, it is probably because I want to contact that person.  in 90+% of the cases when I do that, the place I am looking is current enough that the email address given there will work and reflects their preference for contact about the document.   So please keep it there.

Yours,

Joel

PS: While I don't have an ORCID, I don't object if the community decides it would be good forour folks to have them.  I recognize that my long-term stable email address is an outlier.  (not an extreme outlier, but not the cmmon case.)

On 4/12/2025 5:20 PM, Michael Richardson wrote:
John R. Levine <johnl@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
     >> Are you okay with an RFC having *ONLY* an ORCID?

     > No.  That would be a significant change and would make RFCs less useful.

     >> We only solve sob@harvard and the problem of deadnames by leaving all of
     >> those out of the document.

     > While I understand why deadnames are an issue, I also do not see that it is
     > our job to tie ourselves in knots about it.  To the extent that we can change
     > entries in our databases, sure, do that.

Someone who is concerned going forward would want to proactively redact their
name.  I think we already redact first names in many places via "ins",
although I'm not sure of the history of that.  It seems to be what scientific
publications have done for a long time.

Thus the question about ORCID only.

     > But we are not going to be able to
     > go and retroactively edit every downloaded copy of every document we ever
     > published, and I don't see any point in trying.

This was not the question, nor have I suggested it.

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Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@xxxxxxxxxxxx>   . o O ( IPv6 IøT consulting )
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