Re: Identity systems, was Authorship

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On Thu, Apr 10, 2025, 3:29 PM Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> Colin Perkins <csp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>     >> Colin Perkins <csp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>     >> >> might come under attack.  That the data privacy laws are US ones.
>     >> Someone
>     >> >> at
>     >> >> a European GDPR-compliant institution would ideally review to see if
>     >> there
>     >> >> are issues.
>     >>
>     >> > ORCID is *extremely* widely used in European universities.
>     >>
>     >> That's good to know.
>     >> Do universities support it financially?
>
>     > I presume so. The UK universities certainly do, via a sector-wide consortium
>     > agreement with Orcid.
>
> Is there a clear/consensus way for us to include it into our author
> markdown/XML?

Depends how much a bike shed you want to make it (could be tag or
attribute on some other element). XML is likely easier than markdown
at first and necessary given the workflows. I think any additional
information would face the same problem to be clear.

> Would it make sense for HTML renderings of RFCs to use the API
> to retrieve the current name/email/association from ORCID (via javascript).

Journals usually create hyperlinks to the ORCID of the authors. I
think online fetching would be a bad idea.

>
> Will the RFC-editor need any official action to allow authors that want to be
> identified *only* by their ORCID?  This solves people changing names (for all
> the old and new reasons), and also the sob@harvard problem.
>
> Using ORCID does not preclude *ALSO* using JScontact via PHB's hash process.
> They would seem to me, to be complementary, and also, can support each other?
> I want it all.

If you want to have stable author identifiers that are used by already
overlapping communities ORCID is the already existing system to use.
Let's not boil the ocean here, but I'm aware there are some issues in
this space it doesn't solve.

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> (/me goes to consult ICANN about just getting mcr. )
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> Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@xxxxxxxxxxxx>   . o O ( IPv6 IøT consulting )
>            Sandelman Software Works Inc, Ottawa and Worldwide
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