Hi Mary, You seem to be trying hard to imply that I said things I did not say. Interviewing all the nominees is fine if there are a reasonable number of them and that's what the nomcom wants to do. I said that REQUIRING nomcoms to interview all nominees is absurd. Thanks, Donald =============================== Donald E. Eastlake 3rd +1-508-333-2270 (cell) 2386 Panoramic Circle, Apopka, FL 32703 USA d3e3e3@xxxxxxxxx On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 2:51 PM Mary B <mary.h.barnes@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > IETF hasn't been small for the 25+ years I've been participating. I personally do not think that the number of typical nominees is too many to consider interviewing them all. Folks should consider that someone that hasn't been around as long might well be someone that could be a future chair. Showing them some respect and the same consideration as other nominees is not absurd IMHO. And, it provides them the opportunity to better understand the process and IETF as a whole. > > Regards, > Mary. > > On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 1:46 PM <ivandean@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> NomCom process was designed when IETF was fairly small and almost everyone knew everyone. These days is a bit different. >> There are times when NomCom voting members don’t know the nominee, although the nominee is qualified on paper, the community feedback is very important to make the decision to interview or not. Hence, to make it practical, in this day and age, having community feedback started as early as the nomination period has ended, and closed two weeks before the 3rd IETF, NomCom can make more effective selection about who to interview and who not. >> >> Dean >> >> On 21 Mar 2025, at 14:27, Donald Eastlake wrote: >> >> Given that the number of nominees is unbounded, requiring the nomcom >> to interview them all is absurd. Many years ago, when I was nomcom >> Chair, apparently due to some notice of the call for nominations >> appearing on some non-IETF mailing lists, as I recall we got about 40 >> nominations just for IAB many of which had absolutely no background in >> or connection with the IETF. We did not interview them all. >> >> Thanks, >> Donald >> >> Donald E. Eastlake 3rd +1-508-333-2270 (cell) >> 2386 Panoramic Circle, Apopka, FL 32703 USA >> d3e3e3@xxxxxxxxx >> >> On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 1:55 PM Mary B mary.h.barnes@xxxxxxxxx wrote: >> >> It is NOT ]required that a Nomcom interview all nominees. I certainly think it's the right thing to do and it was the model followed by the Nomcom I chaired. But, I was not interviewed at least one of the times I was nominated in early 2000s. >> >> Mary >> >> On Thu, Mar 20, 2025 at 8:46 PM Pete Resnick resnick=40episteme.net@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: >> >> On 21 Mar 2025, at 7:48, Dean Bogdanovic wrote: >> >> At IETF, the NomCom is required to interview every nominee, which is >> highly time-consuming. >> >> That does not appear to be true. I can find it nowhere in RFC 8713. Why >> do you say it is required? >> >> pr >> >> Pete Resnick https://www.episteme.net/ >> All connections to the world are tenuous at best
