On Thursday 14 August 2025 20:01:03 dep via tde-users wrote: > "Debian-based" pretty much always > means "uses the .deb package management and will run things from the > Debian repository," kind of like television shows that are "based on a > real story." There's always a catch. I learned that from Canonical, which > was fine for awhile and well loved in the community, but then started > charging for security updates and forcing "snap" packages, controlled by > Canonical, onto its users. If it were based on Debian in a meaningful way, > I should have been able to simply switch the entries > in /etc/apt/sources.list from Ubuntu to Debian, do an update and upgrade, > and be switched to Debian. But no. Can't trust any of the "based-on" > distributions -- there's no guarantee. > > That's why it pretty much *has* to be Debian, and for power and ease of use > it pretty much *has* to be TDE. Talking people who have been on Windows > through installing Linux and TDE would be a daunting task, which is why > I'm so hoping to find a Debian/TDE respin. Like yourself, I got tired of wrestling with Ubuntu (actually, Kubuntu) to keep control of my machines. That's why I changed over to Debian. But it's also why I changed from Debian over to Devuan, because Debian may yet go the same way as the 'Buntus; although I think that's a long way off. The way systemd was forced on users, even though (as I understand it) some felt that it went against the principles or philosophy of Debian. I don't know all the details, just what I gleaned in the corners of the internet some years ago. Anyway, like I always tell people, Devuan seems more true to Debian than Devuan itself; at least, for me, it runs better than Debian ever did. I hear that one can run Debian without systemd, just use init again, but I haven't felt inclined to give it a try. There is, however, one good reason to recommend Devuan, which is that a number of Devuan distros come with TDE pre-installed, which is what you wanted. I am thinking of AntiX and MXLinux. I don't run them myself, but I know that some here on the mailing list do run them, so they would know more than I. Myself, I would like to find a vanilla Devuan OS with TDE pre-installed, as I want to stick with that for now, and TDE installs on top of that just fine. Just my two cents' worth. Bill ____________________________________________________ tde-users mailing list -- users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web mail archive available at https://mail.trinitydesktop.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
