Re: [TECH TOPIC] Kernel documentation - update and future directions

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On Wed, Sep 03, 2025 at 03:39:05PM +0200, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> Em Wed, 03 Sep 2025 12:45:25 +0200 Johannes Berg escreveu:
> > On Wed, 2025-09-03 at 12:42 +0200, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> > > > For example, use case we have: using nix-shell to lock down the software
> > > > used to build, for reproducible builds and similar reasons. Without --
> > > > pure, PATH may still contain (last!) software from the system itself,
> > > > but it should basically never be used.  
> > > 
> > > if the PATH is mangled, you'll have a lot more problems than just
> > > building docs as it will pick wrong exec files anyway.  
> > 
> > Err, no? To search a binary, directories in $PATH are meant to be
> > searched in order of appearance. It's well-defined which one you pick
> > for which, and this setup takes advantage of that (with a rather long
> > $PATH) to control the binaries used for the build.
> 
> Yes. So? the logic does that.
> 
> > > In the particular case of docs, if you have, for instance, two different
> > > python versions, one with sphinx and another one without it, it may pick
> > > the wrong one, causing the build to fail. There's nothing the build system
> > > can do to solve it. The proper fix would be to wrap the calling logic
> > > to save the env before running under nix-shell, restoring env afterwards.  
> > 
> > I don't follow. If this setup breaks the build then that's good, I'll
> > fix the env. If the build does magic inside and sort of ignores $PATH,
> > that's bad.
> 
> The build logic does follow PATH. If python --version < 3.7, it will
> seek, within PATH, for python > 3.6.

Please, let's stop here. As pointed out by Jani, Johannes and Jon,
that's not a good idea. If the user wants to shoot themselves in the
foot, that's all fine. Printing a message to indicate they may want to
use a more recent Python version is totally fine. Picking a Python
interpreter manually to override the python3 symlink is not fine.

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart




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