Moin, I fully agree with Job on this point. Would it maybe make sense to make this point explicit in a document? With best regards, Tobias On Mon, 2025-08-18 at 12:50 +0000, Job Snijders wrote: > Dear all, > > The IETF is committed to making all text available with a permissive > license and with appropriate attribution. A fantastic objective I > wholeheartedly support. As I understand things, generative AI/LLMs, > by > their nature, are likely unable to provide the necessary assurances > that > the generated material is compatible with the provisions of BCP 78 > (RFC5378) or that the original authors are properly attributed. > > I can see that AI tooling is helping some folks with study & > analysis, > (which is great for them!), however I am not sure that submitting an > internet-draft to the IETF that was (partially) generated using AI > would > be a wise path to follow: I recently spotted someone who contemplated > submitting a 33,000+ word LLM-generated I-D for review to a working > group. The machine certainly was not a subject matter expert - but at > first glance it all looked legit, if such submissions were to happen > they'd have the potential to take up a lot of time resources. > > I personally would recommend working groups against adoption of AI > generated text (mostly because of the potential for issues related to > intellectual property). IMHO, handwritten originals are the way to go > when using the IETF publication venue! :) > > The FreeBSD project recently added some clarifications, > result: > https://reviews.freebsd.org/differential/changeset/?ref=1420532 > discussion: https://reviews.freebsd.org/D50650?id=156417 > > Other entities also provided documentation on the topic: > https://www.linuxfoundation.org/legal/generative-ai > https://www.apache.org/legal/generative-tooling.html > > Is it documented somewhere for IETF newcomers that internet-draft > submissions should not contain LLM/AI generated text? I imagine that > similar clarifications for the IETF context along the lines of "text > _about_ AI is fine, but text generated by AI has legal implications" > would be very helpful. > > Where can I point newcomers on this topic? > > Kind regards, > > Job -- Dr.-Ing. Tobias Fiebig T +31 616 80 98 99 M tobias@xxxxxxxxx Pronouns: he/him/his
