Re: IETF 123 Final Agenda

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mmmm… so you’re saying that most of us are older and weaker? May be is in the other way around!

Seriously, I think precaution is good, but exaggeration is not.

The heat waves in the last few summers has been a recurrent trend and I don’t think just in Europe.

My recalling from precedent years is that June and early july is getting hotter in Spain than mid-july and august.

I don’t think this is too much different that what we had other summers or if we compare with BKK in March, where you add the humidity factor, is much different.

The hotel has completed a big renovation during the pandemic, and that included the air conditioning systems.I’ve been there many times (also the secretariat a month ago) and was very comfortable (and they had some big events with hundreds of participants during some the visits).

The hotel also will offer a lot of watering points, including a mix of fountains and water bottles. I will suggest the participants to bring their own refillable water bottlers to avoid plastic waste, as we did in previous events and of course, if you walk around Madrid, stay hydrated.

Also a recommendation to avoid the peak sun hours in the street and avoid doing outdoor sports during that time. I will say those peak hours in that part of the city are 14:00 to 17:00.

Also, in summer in Spain we have frequent “summer storms”, which tend to moderate the temperature.

By the way, the secretariat told me that I will be handling the weather desk next to the registration, so I can take all the wishes and complains about the weather. If you know rain and weather dances or any other tricks that I can play with, you need to tell me; I need to learn them quickly!

Here is a link to the Madrid climate info:



Regards,
Jordi

@jordipalet


El 30 jun 2025, a las 0:54, Michael De Roover <ietf@xxxxxxxxxxxx> escribió:

On Friday, 27 June 2025 23:42:46 CEST IETF Agenda wrote:
IETF 123
Madrid, Spain
July 19-25, 2025
Hosted By: Ericsson

Hi,

Just wanted to mention that Europe is currently going through a serious heat
wave, easily the most severe one I have ever seen. I think it also qualifies as
the most severe since measurements began.

Last week (between 16-24 June), I was in northern Portugal. While there, and
despite my young age and comparatively forgiving location on the peninsula, I
had multiple heat strokes and on one walk with my partner, even had my mind go
completely blank from the heat. It was a well-known route, yet I couldn't
remember any of it when she asked at the time.

My age is quite young, at 28 likely among the youngest to be participating in
the IETF. This is in stark contrast with the smarter, and more importantly
older members I sometimes read about on their Wikipedia and Datatracker pages.
If you are in your senior years and intend to go in person, please consider if
you can attend remotely. The temperatures in northern Portugal were
consistently above 30C, peaking at 38. In Madrid, this will be higher. So far,
it seems that it will remain around the 40C mark, with even 45 already being
reported elsewhere in Spain. I don't think it's a stretch to consider those
deadly.

Organizers, please do everything you can to accommodate for the heat.
Especially in the afternoon, there should be no reason for anyone to be
outside or away from at least fans and a steady water supply. As far as I
know, the tap water in Spain is potable. Whatever you do, I don't want to be
responsible for people dying. It happens at festivals here in Belgium too,
large events.. are just like that sometimes, especially in extreme heat.

Stay safe.

--
Met vriendelijke groet,
Michael De Roover

Mail: ietf@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Web: michael.de.roover.eu.org




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