On Sunday, 22 June 2025 21:33:06 CEST Michael Richardson wrote: > Yes, but it's our clique! > I don't claim to even know what the point of IPv6 is :-) > Dancing turtles and cat videos. Hear hear! If there's anything I do not want to get lost in protocol design, it's the humanity thereof. We are the special people designing those, and deserve recognition therein. It is how we write history! We wrote the technical bits, now let us persist in the humanitarian ones! Surely the 128- bit space is plenty for a couple of these. How is that - against IPv4's limits - not something worth fighting for? > I was at a series of meetings 20 (?!) years ago with **Fred** on Smart > Metering, where multiple people wanted smart meters to all use 10.x > addresses, and suggested we should be routing XML instead of using IPv6. > > (Some of those people were still running DOS 5.0 on their laptops. I kid you > not) > > And who decides whether or not a deceased IETF contributor is > > ’significant’ enough to be honored in this way? > > The IESG. > > > Why not do this for > > all deceased IETF members? > > yes, why not. Petitition the IESG. > Honestly, I don't think it will be a problem in practice. If we have authority over this, let's do it! Let's make history! > (Does the IESG have time? Look we spend plenary time on obits. > Make this an IAB, LLC problem. Hell make it an IETF trust problem if you > prefer) > > Who are IETF members? Dunno, since we have no franchise, we'd have to limit > it to people with DT accounts. Not me, but I would like to see this being the humane bits of those. I will spend the money to attend in its fullest extent one day, it's just that my own life is preventing some of it so far (how ironic). But I want to be there, I want to architect the future. And the people like Fred laid the groundwork to do it. May God bless him. > > Or all deceased (or living) humans; we do, > > indeed, have enough space within a /64 for this? > > yeah, we certainly do. > v6 space is not scarce. Maybe this will help people remember that. Does > IANA have enough disk space[?] Yes, it does. Exponentials. We can do this, so let's go ahead and do it. This is not a repeat of IPv4. Let's do this! > > What do we want to > > happen if such an address is used in the destination field of an IPv6 > > packet? Dedicate a server in his honour. Accept ping, drop everything else. Whatever seems most suitable to what he would've done himself, and operated by someone close to him. Rest in peace Fred. I've never been able to speak to you in person, but I appreciate your contributions. You've helped to cultivate the IETF into what it is today. To us newcomers, you were the catalyst that we need. Thank you so much for that. Those contributions transcend life. -- Met vriendelijke groet, Michael De Roover Mail: ietf@xxxxxxxxxxxx Web: michael.de.roover.eu.org