[Last-Call] Re: Last Call: Nullifying the BCP 83 PR-Action Against Pradeep Kumar Xplorer

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On Mon, May 5, 2025, at 09:32, Stephen Farrell wrote:

Hiya,

On 05/05/2025 14:18, Salz, Rich wrote:
> I don’t remember what this person did, but five years is excessive.
> My guess is that they don’t even care any more. I am strongly in
> favor of nullifying the PR-Action.

Interesting. My conclusion was the opposite - I never saw anything
approximating a useful message from that (set of) email addresses,
so I'd not be in favour of this nullifying action until after there's
a better moderation scheme in place and up and running already. Once
there is, the sure, let's get rid of the legacy BCP 83 thing.

In contrast, I'm fine with nullifying the PR action against Dan Harkins
as Dan has continued to contribute usefully on other lists so I'd be
hopeful that he'd play ball on admin topics too rather than go through
all that again.

I am in agreement with Stephen on both of these.  Let's bring Dan back, but I have had interactions with PKX on a working group I chair, and when I asked others they said "oh yeah, that missing stair[1] - we all know not to engage".

Well, I didn't know at the time.  I'd rather have other people who haven't had the pleasure of interacting with this account not have to go through the same experience.

Citation: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/extra/TI27CglC2PUDsxMaMmHd-xaKpk4/

In the end our Area Director at the time stepped in: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/extra/NUQCbp0snjUd3OLB3Zwk_NgnhS4/

I do not believe that allowing that account to participate in the IETF again would lead to anything other than wasting more people's time.

Bron.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_stair

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