On 21 Mar 2025, at 9:32, ivandean@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
On 3/20/2025 9:53 PM, Salz, Rich wrote:
There is a difference between what the rules officially say, and
what the community expects. I would expect that if someone wasn’t
picked, and they did not have an interview, that it would be highly
likely they would file an appeal.
I have never seen any discussion in the community indicating any
expectation that any candidate gets interviewed, let alone every. If
some candidate who did not get picked and didn't get an interview
appealed, I would expect the ISOC President (or other arbiter) to take
exactly 10 minutes to ask the NomCom chair on what basis they made the
decision, the NomCom chair would say, "We eliminated based on the
person's CV and/or questionnaire answers", and the arbiter would say to
the appellant, "There is no requirement for an interview in 8713, the
NomCom has full discretion to run their process as they see fit, they
did due diligence, and you can go away."
The IETF community easily gets up in arms if someone suggests doing
something out of the “norm”. (Ask me how I know :)
If the NomCom is currently under the impression that they need to
interview every candidate, let this be notice that this member of the
community expects them to stop doing that immediately. They should come
up with a process that eliminates obviously unqualified candidates and
stop wasting their time interviewing people who have no business in
those positions.
NomCom should really be able to reduce number of interviews to about
30ish most serious nominees.
Yes, and they can now. If it is not required by 8713, NomCom can do what
they want. If the community complains, the next NomCom can choose to do
something different.
For that we need the community feedback to be done two weeks before
the 3rd IETF.
That is something that the community complained about, but what about
the NomCom people and their time? Should they really be the ones who
have to forego the participation in the 3rd IETF. Updating few things
would be very helpful for future NomComs
No update is required. Simply choose not to do that in the future. In my
opinion, it is a huge failure of the NomCom process if the NomCom is
being told that they MUST do anything not required by 8713.
pr
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