Sounds good to me.
Leslie Satenstein
On Thursday, September 11, 2025 at 12:24:18 p.m. EDT, Adam Williamson <adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Thu, 2025-09-11 at 02:48 +0200, Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 11, 2025 at 2:25 AM Gary Buhrmaster
> <gary.buhrmaster@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 10, 2025 at 9:01 PM Neal Gompa <ngompa13@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > I think the expectation was for dracut 108 and systemd 258 to be used in tandem.
> >
> > The changes for dracut 108 are significant, and
> > clearly could break something in F43, but I think
> > getting it into F43 would be for the best rather
> > than waiting for F44. Would this need to be a
> > late F43 FESCo change exception, or could it
> > be a beta freeze exception? I don't really like
> > either choice, but this would seem to be the
> > time to make a decision.
>
> Submitting it as an update to F43 and having a freeze exception filed
> would be sufficient.
Well, yes, but we'd need justification to accept it as an FE. "We kinda
feel like these things are meant to go together!" isn't really
sufficient justification. Is there some actual, concrete problem
someone can point to with the current stable packages in F43 - systemd-
258~rc4-1.fc43 and dracut-107-6.fc43 ?
Once Beta is done, there is no technical restriction preventing you
landing this before the Final freeze, but the policy is
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Updates_Policy/#beta-to-final-freeze
, "The branched tree should now be stabilized and prepared for release.
Major changes should be avoided during this period."
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> On Thu, Sep 11, 2025 at 2:25 AM Gary Buhrmaster
> <gary.buhrmaster@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 10, 2025 at 9:01 PM Neal Gompa <ngompa13@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > I think the expectation was for dracut 108 and systemd 258 to be used in tandem.
> >
> > The changes for dracut 108 are significant, and
> > clearly could break something in F43, but I think
> > getting it into F43 would be for the best rather
> > than waiting for F44. Would this need to be a
> > late F43 FESCo change exception, or could it
> > be a beta freeze exception? I don't really like
> > either choice, but this would seem to be the
> > time to make a decision.
>
> Submitting it as an update to F43 and having a freeze exception filed
> would be sufficient.
Well, yes, but we'd need justification to accept it as an FE. "We kinda
feel like these things are meant to go together!" isn't really
sufficient justification. Is there some actual, concrete problem
someone can point to with the current stable packages in F43 - systemd-
258~rc4-1.fc43 and dracut-107-6.fc43 ?
Once Beta is done, there is no technical restriction preventing you
landing this before the Final freeze, but the policy is
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Updates_Policy/#beta-to-final-freeze
, "The branched tree should now be stabilized and prepared for release.
Major changes should be avoided during this period."
--
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Fedora QA
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