Re: OT: Re: Barcode reader Android

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Thanks very much for this!

On Tue Aug19'25 10:06:00AM, Community Support for Fedora Users wrote:
> From: Alexander Burke via users <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2025 10:06:00 +0000
> To: users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Cc: Alexander Burke <alex@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: OT: Re: Barcode reader Android
> 
> Hello,
> 
> > I am not keen on going to GrapheneOS because I do not want to have a google account to get Playstore apps (necessary ones at least)
> 
> I use GrapheneOS and I do not have a Google Account. I have installed apps
> from the Play Store via Aurora Store [0], which uses throwaway accounts
> (managed automatically and replenished as they get banned) to access the
> Play Store API and to fetch the relevant APKs directly from Google.

Oh, I see: I use obtainium too, but it never occurred to me to use that to install Aurora. I have not been able to figure out how to use AppVerifier with Obtainium as appears to be recommended but perhaps I will now put in greater effort intot this. 

> 
> It works great, with the caveat that paid apps and in-app purchases are a
> no-go. Even my banking apps (plural) work perfectly.

That is perfect: I am not interested in paid apps (to the extent I can avoid them, and have done so so far) or in-app purchases. My computers all  running Fedora, since Fedora Core 1, is good for that:-)

> 
> If you don't have sandboxed Play Services [1] installed, you won't get push
> notifications, but that's OK with me. (Signal brings its own notifications,
> which work perfectly.) If you do install sandboxed Play Services, you don't
> need to sign in for apps which use Google-based notifications (which is most
> of them) to work.

I see. So if an app is not installed via aurora (or something that is originally from F-Droid), does that mean that it comes with its own push notifications? I presume that I would miss notifications from something like Outlook lite (which I installed from Aurora) which is my work email. 

>
> 
> Even Google Maps works when installed from Aurora Store and without being
> signed in, as long as you have sandboxed Play Services installed or you
> install a sufficiently-old version of the APK which doesn't rely on Play
> Services.

I see: I use GV (from F-Droid) which is a frontend for Google Maps, and MapQuest. I am not sure what I miss.

> 
> I now have most of my apps installed via Obtainium [2].
> 
> 0: https://www.auroraoss.com/aurora-store
> 1: https://grapheneos.org/usage#sandboxed-google-play
> 2: https://obtainium.imranr.dev/

Thanks very much again! This is very helpful to know.

Best wishes,
Ranjan


> 
> 
> On 2025-08-19 06:37, Ranjan Maitra via users wrote:
> > On Mon Aug18'25 09:11:13PM, Joe Average wrote:
> > > From: Joe Average <sixpack13@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2025 21:11:13 -0000
> > > To: users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users <users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Subject: Re: OT: Re: Barcode reader Android
> > > 
> > > Ranjan Maitra wrote:
> > > ...
> > > > Our phones use CalyxOS and LineageOS (the first on a Pixel 8a and the second on a Pixel 4a5g) with the latter rooted and bootloader unlocked (which is what LineageOS requires).
> > > 
> > > are you aware off this ?
> > > https://calyxos.org/news/2025/08/01/a-letter-to-our-community/
> > 
> > Oh, no! Thank you for this information. Sending a project to hiatus for 4-6 months (and then having everyone reinstall) seems to me to be a major hurdle to its continuation.
> > 
> > I am not keen on going to GrapheneOS because I do not want to have a google account to get Playstore apps (necessary ones at least). I just came across iode os and can not tell much the difference between that and CalyxOS. However, it is not clear to me how updated it is, given that the website main page is from October 2024. Actually, it is also not clear that it installs on an 8a.
> > 
> > Any other options? I was originally on LineageOS with microg, and then moved to CalyxOS (and then to GrapheneOS for a few days before I came back).
> > 
> > Thanks very much again for the above information!
> > 
> > Best wishes,
> > Ranjan
> > 
> 
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