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Re: Q: GRANT ... WITH ADMIN on PG 17

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On 22.08.2025 11:40, Laurenz Albe wrote:
- gm-dbo: user role for a DBA admin (not! superuser)
- gm-bones: user role for a LLAP doctor
- gm-doctors: group role for doctors, upon which are resting
  access permissions for clinical data
- gm-bones is to be a member of gm-doctors in order to access clinical data
- gm-dbo is intended to manage membership of gm-bones in gm-doctors
- however, gm-dbo need not itself be a member of gm-doctors

Is that possible within the current (as of PG 17) framework ?
Yes, that should work as follows:

  test=# CREATE ROLE "gm-dbo" LOGIN;
  CREATE ROLE
  test=# CREATE ROLE "gm-bones";
  CREATE ROLE
  test=# CREATE ROLE "gm-doctors";
  CREATE ROLE
  test=# GRANT "gm-doctors" to "gm-dbo" WITH ADMIN TRUE, INHERIT FALSE, SET FALSE;
  GRANT ROLE
  test=# SET SESSION AUTHORIZATION "gm-dbo";
  SET
  test=> GRANT "gm-doctors" TO "gm-bones";
  GRANT ROLE
  test=> SET ROLE "gm-doctors";
  ERROR:  permission denied to set role "gm-doctors"

"gm-dbo" can manage membership in "gm-doctors" (ADMIN TRUE), but does not inherit
the role's privileges, nor can "gm-dbo" assume the identity of "gm-doctors".

Such a scheme will protect against accidental (unintended) use of the gm-dbo
role of its capabilities. But gm-dbo can grant itself SET and INHERIT options
in gm-doctors:

GRANT "gm-doctors" to "gm-dbo" WITH INHERIT TRUE, SET TRUE;

A safer option is to use security definer function to grant membership
in the gm-doctors group. Something like this:

\connect - postgres
CREATE ROLE dbo LOGIN;
CREATE ROLE bones LOGIN;

CREATE ROLE doctors;

CREATE OR REPLACE PROCEDURE grant_doctors_to (member_role text)
AS $$
BEGIN
    IF member_role != 'dbo' THEN
        EXECUTE format('GRANT doctors TO %I WITH INHERIT TRUE, SET TRUE, ADMIN FALSE', member_role);
    END IF;
END;
$$ LANGUAGE plpgsql SECURITY DEFINER;
REVOKE EXECUTE ON PROCEDURE grant_doctors_to FROM public;
GRANT EXECUTE ON PROCEDURE grant_doctors_to TO dbo;

\connect - dbo
CALL grant_doctors_to('bones');
CALL

GRANT doctors to dbo WITH INHERIT TRUE, SET TRUE;
ERROR:  permission denied to grant role "doctors"
DETAIL:  Only roles with the ADMIN option on role "doctors" may grant this role.

-- 
Pavel Luzanov
Postgres Professional: https://postgrespro.com

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