Re: [nf-next RFC] netfilter: nf_tables: Feature ifname-based hook registration

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On Thu, Jul 03, 2025 at 02:54:36PM +0200, Florian Westphal wrote:
> Phil Sutter <phil@xxxxxx> wrote:
> > > Do we need new query types for this?
> > > nftables could just query via rtnetlink if the device exists or not
> > > and then print a hint if its absent.
> > 
> > Hey, that's a hack! :P
> > Under normal circumstances, this should indeed suffice. The ruleset is
> > per-netns, so the kernel's view matches nft's. The only downside I see
> > is that we would not detect kernel bugs this way, e.g. if a new device
> > slipped through and was not bound. Debatable if the GETDEV extra effort
> > is justified for this "should not happen" situation, though.
> 
> Could the info be included in the dump? For this we'd only need a
> 'is_empty()' result.  For things like eth*, nft list hooks might be
> good enough to spot bugs (e.g., you have 'eth*' subscription, but
> eth0 is registed but eth1 isn't but it should be.

That may indeed be a simple solution avoiding to bloat
NEWFLOWTABLE/NEWCHAIN messages.

> In any case I think that can be added later.

Right now, NFTA_FLOWTABLE_HOOK_DEVS is just an array of NFTA_DEVICE_NAME
attributes. Guess the easiest way would be to introduce
NFTA_FLOWTABLE_HOOKLESS_DEVS array of NFTA_DEVICE_NAME attributes, old
user space would just ignore that second array.

Pablo, WDYT? Feasible alternative to the feature flag?

Thanks, Phil




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