On Wed, May 14, 2025 at 07:37:14AM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote: > On Tue, May 13, 2025 at 07:26:14AM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > > We don't bother with the ILOCK as this is best-effort and thus a racy > > access is ok. Add a data_race() annotation to make that clear to > > memory model verifiers. > > IMO, that's the thin edge of a wedge. There are dozens of places in > XFS where we check variable values without holding the lock needed > to serialise the read against modification. Yes. And the linux kernel memory consistency model ask us to mark them, see tools/memory-model/Documentation/access-marking.txt. This fails painful at first, but I'd actually wish we'd have tools enforcing this as strongly as possible as developers (well me at least) seem to think a racy access is just fine more often than they should, and needing an annotation and a comment is a pretty good way to sure that. > Hence my question - are we now going to make it policy that every > possible racy access must be marked with data_race() because there > is some new bot that someone is running that will complain if we > don't? Are you committing to playing whack-a-mole with the memory > model verifiers to silence all the false positives from these > known-to-be-safe access patterns? It's not really a "new bot". It has been official memory consistency policy for a while, but it just hasn't been well enforced. For new code asking if the review is racy and needs a marking or use READ_ONCE() and WRITE_ONCE() has been part of the usual review protocol. Reviewing old code and fixing things we got wrong will take a while, but I'm actually glad about more bots for that.