On 6/11/25 8:36 AM, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote: > On 10/06/2025 15:15, Konrad Dybcio wrote: >> On 6/2/25 3:01 PM, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote: >>> On 08/05/2025 16:26, Konrad Dybcio wrote: >>>> On 4/23/25 5:37 PM, Rob Herring wrote: >>>>> On Sat, Apr 19, 2025 at 10:49:26AM +0530, Krishna Chaitanya Chundru wrote: >>>>>> There are many places we agreed to move the wake and perst gpio's >>>>>> and phy etc to the pcie root port node instead of bridge node[1]. >>>>>> >>>>>> So move the phy, phy-names, wake-gpio's in the root port. >>>>>> There is already reset-gpio defined for PERST# in pci-bus-common.yaml, >>>>>> start using that property instead of perst-gpio. >>>>> >>>>> Moving the properties will break existing kernels. If that doesn't >>>>> matter for these platforms, say so in the commit msg. >>>> >>>> I don't think we generally guarantee *forward* dt compatibility though, no? >>> We do not guarantee, comment was not about this, but we expect. This DTS >>> is supposed and is used by other projects. There was entire complain >>> last DT BoF about kernel breaking DTS users all the time. >> >> Yeah I get it.. we're in a constant cycle of adding new components and >> later coming to the conclusion that whoever came up with the initial >> binding had no clue what they're doing.. >> >> That said, "absens carens".. if users or developers of other projects >> don't speak up on LKML (which serves as the de facto public square for >> DT development), we don't get any feedback to take into account when >> making potentially breaking changes (that may have a good reason behind >> them). We get a patch from OpenBSD people every now and then, but it's >> a drop in the ocean. >> > I don't understand what you are commenting on. Do you reject what I > asked for? If the general consensus among kernel PCIe folks will come down to what this patch does, I think it's fair to shift to a "correct" hw description, especially if this is a requirement to resolve a blocker on functionality (which the author didn't clarify whether is the case) Konrad