On Sun Mar 23, 2025 at 11:10 PM CET, Danilo Krummrich wrote: > On Sat, Mar 22, 2025 at 11:10:57AM +0100, Danilo Krummrich wrote: >> On Fri, Mar 21, 2025 at 08:25:07PM -0700, Greg KH wrote: >> > Along these lines, if you can convince me that this is something that we >> > really should be doing, in that we should always be checking every time >> > someone would want to call to_pci_dev(), that the return value is >> > checked, then why don't we also do this in C if it's going to be >> > something to assure people it is going to be correct? I don't want to >> > see the rust and C sides get "out of sync" here for things that can be >> > kept in sync, as that reduces the mental load of all of us as we travers >> > across the boundry for the next 20+ years. >> >> I think in this case it is good when the C and Rust side get a bit >> "out of sync": > > A bit more clarification on this: > > What I want to say with this is, since we can cover a lot of the common cases > through abstractions and the type system, we're left with the not so common > ones, where the "upcasts" are not made in the context of common and well > established patterns, but, for instance, depend on the semantics of the driver; > those should not be unsafe IMHO. I don't think that we should use `TryFrom` for stuff that should only be used seldomly. A function that we can document properly is a much better fit, since we can point users to the "correct" API. --- Cheers, Benno