On Tue, 2025-08-12 at 09:58 -0700, Trond Myklebust wrote: > On Tue, 2025-08-12 at 07:58 -0400, Jeff Layton wrote: > > On Thu, 2025-07-31 at 17:56 -0400, Trond Myklebust wrote: > > > On Wed, 2025-07-30 at 10:52 -0400, Jeff Layton wrote: > > > > We've been seeing a rather nasty bit of data corruption with NFS > > > > in > > > > our > > > > environment. The clients in this env run a patched v6.9 kernel > > > > (mostly > > > > due to GPU driver requirements). Most of the patches are NFS > > > > containerization fixes. > > > > > > > > The workload is python scripts writing JSONL files sequentially > > > > using > > > > bog-standard buffered write() calls. We're fairly certain that > > > > userland > > > > is not seeking so there should be no gaps in the data written. > > > > > > > > The problem is that we see ranges of written files being replaced > > > > by > > > > NULs. The length of the file seemingly doesn't change from what > > > > it > > > > should be, but a chunk of it will be zeroed-out. Looking at the > > > > offsets > > > > of the zeroed out ranges, the front part of one page is fine, but > > > > the > > > > data from some random offset in the page to the end of the page > > > > is > > > > zeroes. > > > > > > > > We have a reproducer but we have to run it in a heavily parallel > > > > configuration to make it happen, so it's evidently a tight race > > > > of > > > > some > > > > sort. > > > > > > > > We've turned up some tracepoints and reproduced this twice. What > > > > we > > > > see > > > > in both cases is that the client just doesn't write some section > > > > of > > > > the > > > > file. > > > > > > > > In the first trace, there was is a gap of 2201 bytes between > > > > these > > > > two > > > > writes on the wire: > > > > > > > > kworker/u1038:1-2597138 [106] ..... 46138.516795: > > > > nfs_initiate_write: fileid=00:aa:10056165185 fhandle=0x6bd94d55 > > > > offset=53248 count=1895 stable=UNSTABLE > > > > oil-localfs-252-2605046 [163] ..... 46138.551459: > > > > nfs_initiate_write: fileid=00:aa:10056165185 fhandle=0x6bd94d55 > > > > offset=57344 count=443956 stable=FILE_SYNC > > > > > > > > The zeroed-out range is from 55143-57344. At the same time that > > > > the > > > > file is growing from 53248 to 55143 (due to sequential write() > > > > activity), the client is kicking off writeback for the range up > > > > to > > > > 55143. It's issuing 2 writes, one for 0-53248 and one for 53248- > > > > 55143 > > > > (note that I've filtered out all but one of the DS filehandles > > > > for > > > > brevity): > > > > > > > > oil-localfs-252-2605046 [162] ..... 46138.516414: nfs_size_grow: > > > > fileid=00:aa:10056165185 fhandle=0x8bfc64c9 > > > > version=1753485366409158129 cursize=49152 newsize=50130 > > > > oil-localfs-252-2605046 [162] ..... 46138.516593: nfs_size_grow: > > > > fileid=00:aa:10056165185 fhandle=0x8bfc64c9 > > > > version=1753485366409158129 cursize=50130 newsize=53248 > > > > kworker/u1038:1-2597138 [106] ..... 46138.516740: > > > > nfs_initiate_write: fileid=00:aa:10056165185 fhandle=0x6bd94d55 > > > > offset=0 count=53248 stable=UNSTABLE > > > > oil-localfs-252-2605046 [162] ..... 46138.516753: nfs_size_grow: > > > > fileid=00:aa:10056165185 fhandle=0x8bfc64c9 > > > > version=1753485366409158129 cursize=53248 newsize=55143 > > > > kworker/u1038:1-2597138 [106] ..... 46138.516795: > > > > nfs_initiate_write: fileid=00:aa:10056165185 fhandle=0x6bd94d55 > > > > offset=53248 count=1895 stable=UNSTABLE > > > > kworker/u1037:2-2871862 [097] ..... 46138.517659: > > > > nfs4_pnfs_write: > > > > error=0 (OK) fileid=00:aa:10056165185 fhandle=0x6bd94d55 offset=0 > > > > count=53248 res=53248 stateid=1:0x79a9c471 > > > > layoutstateid=1:0xcbd8aaad > > > > kworker/u1037:2-2871862 [097] ..... 46138.517662: > > > > nfs_writeback_done: error=53248 fileid=00:aa:10056165185 > > > > fhandle=0x6bd94d55 offset=0 count=53248 res=53248 stable=UNSTABLE > > > > verifier=5199cdae2816c899 > > > > kworker/u1037:5-2593935 [226] ..... 46138.517669: > > > > nfs4_pnfs_write: > > > > error=0 (OK) fileid=00:aa:10056165185 fhandle=0x6bd94d55 > > > > offset=53248 > > > > count=1895 res=1895 stateid=1:0x79a9c471 > > > > layoutstateid=1:0xcbd8aaad > > > > kworker/u1037:5-2593935 [226] ..... 46138.517672: > > > > nfs_writeback_done: error=1895 fileid=00:aa:10056165185 > > > > fhandle=0x6bd94d55 offset=53248 count=1895 res=1895 > > > > stable=UNSTABLE > > > > verifier=5199cdae2816c899 > > > > oil-localfs-252-2605046 [162] ..... 46138.518360: nfs_size_grow: > > > > fileid=00:aa:10056165185 fhandle=0x8bfc64c9 > > > > version=1753485366409158129 cursize=55143 newsize=57344 > > > > oil-localfs-252-2605046 [162] ..... 46138.518556: nfs_size_grow: > > > > fileid=00:aa:10056165185 fhandle=0x8bfc64c9 > > > > version=1753485366409158129 cursize=57344 newsize=60156 > > > > > > > > ...and just after writeback completes, we see the file size grow > > > > from > > > > 55143 to the end of the page (57344). > > > > > > > > The second trace has similar symptoms. There is a lot more > > > > (smaller) > > > > write activity (due to memory pressure?). There is a gap of 3791 > > > > bytes > > > > between these on-the-wire writes, however: > > > > > > > > kworker/u1036:0-2339252 [217] ..... 479572.054622: > > > > nfs_initiate_write: fileid=00:96:10067193438 fhandle=0xc9992232 > > > > offset=221184 count=4401 stable=UNSTABLE > > > > kworker/u1030:1-2297876 [042] ..... 479572.074194: > > > > nfs_initiate_write: fileid=00:96:10067193438 fhandle=0xc9992232 > > > > offset=229376 count=261898 stable=UNSTABLE > > > > > > > > Same situation -- the at page at offset 53248 has 305 bytes on > > > > it, > > > > and > > > > the remaining is zeroed. This trace shows similar racing write() > > > > and > > > > writeback activity as in Friday's trace. At around the same time > > > > as > > > > the > > > > client was growing the file over the affected range, writeback > > > > was > > > > kicking off for everything up to the affected range (this has > > > > some > > > > other wb related calls filtered for brevity): > > > > > > > > oil-localfs-86-727850 [215] ..... 479572.053987: > > > > nfs_size_grow: > > > > fileid=00:96:10067193438 fhandle=0x14c40498 > > > > version=1753823598774309300 cursize=217088 > > > > newsize=220572 > > > > > > > > > > > > kworker/u1036:8-2339326 [088] ..... 479572.054008: > > > > nfs_initiate_write: fileid=00:96:10067193438 fhandle=0xc9992232 > > > > offset=217088 count=3484 > > > > stable=UNSTABLE > > > > > > > > > > > > oil-localfs-86-727850 [215] ..... 479572.054405: > > > > nfs_size_grow: > > > > fileid=00:96:10067193438 fhandle=0x14c40498 > > > > version=1753823598774309300 cursize=220572 > > > > newsize=221184 > > > > > > > > > > > > kworker/u1036:1-2297875 [217] ..... 479572.054418: > > > > nfs_initiate_write: fileid=00:96:10067193438 fhandle=0xc9992232 > > > > offset=220572 count=612 > > > > stable=UNSTABLE > > > > > > > > > > > > oil-localfs-86-727850 [215] ..... 479572.054581: > > > > nfs_size_grow: > > > > fileid=00:96:10067193438 fhandle=0x14c40498 > > > > version=1753823598774309300 cursize=221184 > > > > newsize=225280 > > > > > > > > > > > > oil-localfs-86-727850 [215] ..... 479572.054584: > > > > nfs_size_grow: > > > > fileid=00:96:10067193438 fhandle=0x14c40498 > > > > version=1753823598774309300 cursize=225280 > > > > newsize=225585 > > > > > > > > > > > > kworker/u1036:0-2339252 [217] ..... 479572.054622: > > > > nfs_initiate_write: fileid=00:96:10067193438 fhandle=0xc9992232 > > > > offset=221184 count=4401 > > > > stable=UNSTABLE > > > > > > > > > > > > oil-localfs-86-727850 [215] ..... 479572.054997: > > > > nfs_size_grow: > > > > fileid=00:96:10067193438 fhandle=0x14c40498 > > > > version=1753823598774309300 cursize=225585 > > > > newsize=229376 > > > > > > > > > > > > oil-localfs-86-727850 [215] ..... 479572.055190: > > > > nfs_size_grow: > > > > fileid=00:96:10067193438 fhandle=0x14c40498 > > > > version=1753823598774309300 cursize=229376 > > > > newsize=230598 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Could this be a race between extending an existing dirty page, > > > > and > > > > writeback kicking off for the pre-extension range on the page? > > > > Maybe > > > > the client is clearing the dirty bit, thinking that the write > > > > covers > > > > the dirty range, but it has an outdated idea about what that > > > > range is > > > > or doesn't properly check? > > > > > > > > Traces for both events, filtered on the relevant fileid are > > > > attached. > > > > I've rolled patches for some new tracepoints that I'm going to > > > > attempt > > > > to turn up next, but I thought that this was a good point to > > > > solicit > > > > ideas. > > > > > > > > Happy to entertain other thoughts or patches! > > > > > > So... The fact that we are seeing a nfs_size_grow() for the hole at > > > offset 55143 means that either an existing request was updated, or > > > a > > > new one was created in order to cover that hole, and it must have > > > been > > > marked as dirty. > > > > > > I'm not seeing anything in the NFS code that can lose that request > > > without triggering either the nfs_write_error tracepoint, the > > > nfs_commit_error tracepoint, the nfs_invalidate_folio tracepoint or > > > else completing the write. > > > > > > The only other way I can see this data being lost is if something > > > is > > > corrupting folio->private, or if the page cache is somehow managing > > > to > > > throw away a dirty folio. > > > Of the two, there was for a while a netfs bug which would corrupt > > > folio->private, but I assume you're not using cachefs? > > > > After staring at this code a lot, I have a theory. But, it seems like > > we'd be seeing this a lot more if it were correct, so I must be > > overlooking something. > > > > Here's the scenario: > > > > --------------8<-------------- > > > > Userland has written some of a file and the last folio is not full. > > > > Writeback has kicked off for the inode and is successful. > > nfs_write_completion() calls nfs_page_end_writeback(). That will > > unlock > > the nfs_page (clear PG_BUSY) and leave it attached to the folio, and > > on > > the commit list. > > > > Next a write from userland comes in to extend the file to the end of > > the page (and beyond). nfs_try_to_update_request() merges the write > > into the original request and re-marks the page dirty. > > > > Later the commit runs successfully and the write verifier matches. > > nfs_commit_release_pages() runs and nfs_inode_remove_request() is > > called which detaches the nfs_page from the folio. > > > > Eventually, writeback starts up again and the folio is picked up and > > submitted by nfs_writepages(), but folio->private is now NULL, and > > it's > > ignored. > > > > But...like I said I feel like we'd hit this all the time if it were > > possible, even though I don't see what prevents it. If this is a > > possibility, then the patch may be as simple as something like this? > > > > diff --git a/fs/nfs/write.c b/fs/nfs/write.c > > index bb0e78644ffb..72402208fa33 100644 > > --- a/fs/nfs/write.c > > +++ b/fs/nfs/write.c > > @@ -1867,7 +1867,7 @@ static void nfs_commit_release_pages(struct > > nfs_commit_data *data) > > * returned by the server against all stored verfs. > > */ > > if (nfs_write_match_verf(verf, req)) { > > /* We have a match */ > > - if (folio) > > + if (folio && !folio_test_dirty(folio)) > > nfs_inode_remove_request(req); > > dprintk_cont(" OK\n"); > > goto next; > > The call to nfs_clear_request_commit() in nfs_join_page_group() should > be taking care of removing the page before a COMMIT is sent. > Got it, thanks. Yeah, that should prevent the commit callback from touching the page. > During both the writeback and the commit, the nfs_page is locked, so > won't be available to be updated by nfs_try_to_update_request(). Yes. I was thinking of the window between the two, but I think you're right that nfs_clear_request_commit() should prevent the commit from touching the page after it gets merged in. Still, the timing of the trace messages suggests that there is race of some sort: oil-localfs-161-1326370 [135] ..... 42066.128429: nfs_write_end: fileid=00:82:10087279963 fhandle=0xa6491ad0 version=1754454982197296994 offset=10026 count=2262 oil-localfs-161-1326370 [135] ..... 42066.128429: nfs_update_folio: fileid=00:82:10087279963 fhandle=0xa6491ad0 version=1754454982197296994 offset=1834 count=2262 oil-localfs-161-1326370 [135] ..... 42066.128429: nfs_try_to_update_request: fileid=00:82:10087279963 fhandle=0xa6491ad0 version=1754454982197296994 offset=1834 count=2262 Here it ends up blocked in nfs_lock_request() while the commit runs. kworker/u1028:3-3432139 [031] ..... 42066.128431: nfs_initiate_commit: fileid=00:82:10087279963 fhandle=0x483d45e0 offset=0 count=0 kworker/u1028:3-3432139 [031] ..... 42066.128435: nfs_initiate_commit: fileid=00:82:10087279963 fhandle=0x7619eec9 offset=0 count=0 kworker/u1028:3-3432139 [031] ..... 42066.128437: nfs_initiate_commit: fileid=00:82:10087279963 fhandle=0xd0cc79e6 offset=0 count=0 kworker/u1037:1-3477598 [226] ..... 42066.129140: nfs_commit_done: error=0 fileid=00:82:10087279963 fhandle=0x7619eec9 offset=0 stable=FILE_SYNC verifier=615487ab86b79ab3 kworker/u1035:0-3302696 [209] ..... 42066.129158: nfs_commit_done: error=0 fileid=00:82:10087279963 fhandle=0x483d45e0 offset=0 stable=FILE_SYNC verifier=a376459679d60091 kworker/u1028:3-3432139 [031] ..... 42066.129163: nfs_commit_done: error=0 fileid=00:82:10087279963 fhandle=0xd0cc79e6 offset=0 stable=FILE_SYNC verifier=ff1ddeecd9737f82 kworker drops the lock, nfs_try_to_update_request() runs to completion and eventually the nfs_size_grow() runs. oil-localfs-161-1326370 [135] ..... 42066.129179: nfs_size_grow: fileid=00:82:10087279963 fhandle=0xa6491ad0 version=1754454982197296994 cursize=10026 newsize=12288 FWIW, I have a bpftrace script that I'm hoping might give us a bit more info about why the page didn't get written back when this happens. Just waiting for some time to run it in our test env. I'll keep looking! -- Jeff Layton <jlayton@xxxxxxxxxx>