Re: Questions Regarding Delegation Claim Behavior

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On 5/26/25 4:10 AM, Petro Pavlov wrote:

Hello Chuck,

Thank you for your response, and apologies for the confusion regarding the kernel version — the correct version is 6.15.0-rc3+ (I believe it's from the branch you gave us). Regarding the client, I'm using hand-written tests based on pynfs.

I believe the following section of the RFC may be relevant to the use of a delegation |stateid| in relation to the file being accessed:

    If the stateid type is not valid for the context in which the
    stateid appears, return NFS4ERR_BAD_STATEID. Note that a stateid
    may be valid in general, as would be reported by the TEST_STATEID
    operation, but be invalid for a particular operation, as, for
    example, when a stateid that doesn't represent byte-range locks is
    passed to the non-from_open case of LOCK or to LOCKU, or when a
    stateid that does not represent an open is passed to CLOSE or
    OPEN_DOWNGRADE. In such cases, the server MUST return
    NFS4ERR_BAD_STATEID.


I did some further investigation and identified another scenario that seems problematic:

1.

    *Client1* creates |file1| without a delegation, with read-write
    access. It writes some data, changes the file mode to |444|, and
    then closes the file.

2.

    *Client2* opens |file1| with read access, receives a read
    delegation (|deleg1|), and closes the file without returning the
    delegation.

3.

    *Client2* then creates |file2| with read-write access, receives a
    write delegation (|deleg2|), and leaves the file open (delegation
    is not returned).

4.

    *Client2* tries to open |file1| with write access and receives an
    |ACCESS_DENIED| error (expected).

5.

    Next, *Client2* attempts to open |file1|  with *write *access
    using CLAIM_DELEGATE_CUR, providing the stateid from deleg2 
    (which was issued for |file2|) — unexpectedly, the operation succeeds.

I think the server should detect that the delegation stateid and the file
component do not belong to the same file and returns NFS4ERR_BAD_STATEID.

This will also prevent the subsequent access check problem.

-Dai

1.


2.

    *Client2* proceeds to write to |file1|, and it also succeeds —
    despite the file being set to |444|, where no write access should
    be allowed.

This behavior seems incorrect, as I would expect the write operation to fail due to file permissions.

Please see the attached PCAP file for reference.

Best regards,
Petro Pavlov


On Fri, May 23, 2025 at 5:41 PM Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

    On 5/22/25 11:51 AM, Petro Pavlov wrote:
    > Hello,
    >
    > My name is Petro Pavlov, I'm a developer at VAST.
    >
    > I have a few questions about the delegation claim behavior
    observed in
    > the Linux kernel version 3.10.0-1160.118.1.el7.x86_64.
    >
    > I’ve written the following test case:
    >
    >  1. Client1 opens *file1* with a write delegation; the server grants
    >     both the open and delegation (*delegation1*).

    Since you mention a write delegation, I'll assume you are using Linux
    as an NFS client, and the server is not Linux, since that kernel
    version
    does not implement server-side write delegation.


    >  2. Client1 closes the open but does not return the delegation.
    >  3. Client2 opens *file2* and also receives a write delegation
    >     (*delegation2*).
    >  4. Client1 then issues an open request with CLAIM_DELEGATE_CUR,
    >     providing the filename from step 3 *(file2*), but using the
    >     delegation stateid from step 1 (*delegation1*).

    Would that be a client bug?


    >  5. The server begins a recall of *delegation2*, treating the
    request in
    >     step 4 as a normal open rather than returning a BAD_STATEID
    error.

    That seems OK to me. The server has correctly noticed that the
    client is opening file2, and delegation2 is associated with a
    previous open of file2.

    A better place to seek an authoritative answer might be RFC 8881.

    The server returns BAD_STATEID if the stateid doesn't pass various
    checks as outlined in Section 8.2. I don't see any text requiring the
    server to report BAD_STATEID if delegate_stateid does not match the
    component4 on a DELEGATE_CUR OPEN -- in fact, Table 19 says that
    DELEGATE_CUR considers only the current file handle (the parent
    directory) and the component4 argument.


    > My understanding is that the server should have verified whether the
    > delegation stateid provided actually belongs to the file being
    opened.
    > Since it does not, I expected the server to return a BAD_STATEID
    error
    > instead of proceeding with a standard open.
    >
    > From additional tests, it seems the server only checks whether the
    > delegation stateid is valid (i.e., whether it was ever granted), but
    > does not verify that it is associated with the correct file or
    client.
    > Please see the attached PCAP for reference.
    >
    > Questions:
    >
    > Is this behavior considered a bug?
    >
    > Are there any known plans to address or fix this issue in future
    kernel
    > versions?

    AFAICT at the moment, NOTABUG


-- Chuck Lever





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