On 7/29/2025 4:00 AM, Damien Le Moal wrote:
On 7/29/25 01:33, Borah, Chaitanya Kumar wrote:
On 7/28/2025 11:01 AM, Damien Le Moal wrote:
On 7/25/25 3:43 PM, Borah, Chaitanya Kumar wrote:
For some context in our kms_pm_rpm tests, we enable min_power policy for SATA
so that we can reach deep runtime power states and restore the original policy
after finishing. [5][6]
IIUC, the above change is based on spec and not something which can be
reverted. So as I see it, we have to drop this code path for external ports.
However I am not sure if we can achieve deep power states without enforcing it
through the sysfs entry.
Atleast for the basic-rte subtest, the test passes if we comment out the
functions controlling the SATA ports. We will need more testing to determine if
this approach work. Any thoughts on it?
Also, are there other ways to detect a port is external other than receiving
EOPNOTSUPP on the sysfs write?
I completely forgot to mention one important thing: please check your test
machine BIOS settings and see if you have "hotplug support" set to enable for
SATA ports. If it is, set that BIOS setting to disable and you will see the
SATA port as a regular one, not as an external port. So LPM support will be
back and your test program will not need changes.
Not all BIOSes have such setting though. Most of the machine I have do have it
though and I checked that it does affect how the ahci driver sees the port
(external or regular with LPM).
Found a "Hot Plug" setting (thanks to Mika!) in our testing device's
BIOS but it does not seem to have any effect.
We also have an option called "External", toggling that did not help either.
There is another configuration which was *readonly*.
"Configured as eSATA" -> "Hot Plug supported"
Not sure if it is relevant to our discussion.
It is and that probably is the reason why disabling hotplug does nothing on the
port external characteristic. Does this machine really have eSata ports ? Do
they correspond to the 4 ports (out of 8) that you see as external
(link_power_management_supported = 0 ports) ?
I can see the BIOS setting available for all 8 ports.
Likely, you have the SXS host capability set for this machine because of this
BIOS setup. From the AHCI specifications:
Supports External SATA (SXS): When set to ‘1’, indicates that the HBA has one or
more Serial ATA ports that has a signal only connector that is externally
accessible (e.g. eSATA connector).
Hotplug is reported as a separate bit, but handled in the same way as an
external port as we cannot (easily) support LPM if we want to preserve the
hotplug capability (LPM changes the PHY state constantly, which clashes with hot
plug/unplug PHY changes and is hard to differentiate).
Note that you can see if a port is external in dmesg. Look for:
ata4: SATA max UDMA/133 abar m524288@0xaa500000 port 0xaa500280 irq 112 lpm-pol
1 ext
A regular port will not have the "ext" at the end:
ata5: SATA max UDMA/133 abar m524288@0xaa500000 port 0xaa500300 irq 112 lpm-pol 1
Thanks for the hint. I see the following logs with our default BIOS
configuration.
[ 6.125670] ata1: DUMMY
[ 6.125673] ata2: DUMMY
[ 6.125676] ata3: DUMMY
[ 6.125678] ata4: DUMMY
[ 6.125683] ata5: SATA max UDMA/133 abar m2048@0xb8263000 port
0xb8263300 irq 128 lpm-pol 4
[ 6.125693] ata6: SATA max UDMA/133 abar m2048@0xb8263000 port
0xb8263380 irq 128 lpm-pol 4
[ 6.125702] ata7: SATA max UDMA/133 abar m2048@0xb8263000 port
0xb8263400 irq 128 lpm-pol 4
[ 6.125711] ata8: SATA max UDMA/133 abar m2048@0xb8263000 port
0xb8263480 irq 128 lpm-pol 4
Enabling the "External" option in BIOS has impact on the "non-DUMMY"
ports but has no affect on the DUMMY ones.
After enabling the External option on port 1 and 7, the dmesg becomes.
[ 6.366145] ata1: DUMMY
[ 6.366148] ata2: DUMMY
[ 6.366151] ata3: DUMMY
[ 6.366153] ata4: DUMMY
[ 6.366160] ata5: SATA max UDMA/133 abar m2048@0xb8263000 port
0xb8263300 irq 128 lpm-pol 4
[ 6.366168] ata6: SATA max UDMA/133 abar m2048@0xb8263000 port
0xb8263380 irq 128 lpm-pol 4
[ 6.366174] ata7: SATA max UDMA/133 abar m2048@0xb8263000 port
0xb8263400 irq 128 lpm-pol 1 ext
[ 6.366182] ata8: SATA max UDMA/133 abar m2048@0xb8263000 port
0xb8263480 irq 128 lpm-pol 4
Also enabling "External" hides the "Configured as eSATA" option.
-Chaitanya
