On Thu, 14 Aug 2025 11:28:58 +0300 Ido Schimmel wrote: > On Wed, Aug 13, 2025 at 05:20:17PM -0700, Jakub Kicinski wrote: > > On Tue, 12 Aug 2025 11:02:12 +0300 Ido Schimmel wrote: > > > /* redirect to backup link if the destination port is down */ > > > - if (rcu_access_pointer(to->backup_port) && !netif_carrier_ok(to->dev)) { > > > + if (rcu_access_pointer(to->backup_port) && > > > + (!netif_carrier_ok(to->dev) || !netif_running(to->dev))) { > > > > Not really blocking this patch, but I always wondered why we allow > > devices with carrier on in admin down state. Is his just something we > > have because updating 200 drivers which don't manage carrier today > > would be a PITA? Or there's a stronger reason to allow this? > > Hopefully I'm not misreading the patch.. > > Probably the first reason. Thanks, let me add clearing carrier to our list of potential cleanup projects.