* Steven Rostedt (rostedt@xxxxxxxxxxx) wrote: > On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 16:34:28 +0100 > Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > Which looked like someone else (now Cc'd on this thread) took it public, (I didn't know of the tab discussion) > > > and I wanted to see where that ended. I didn't want to start another > > > discussion when there's already two in progress. > > > > OK, but having a document like this is not in my view optional - we must > > have a clear, stated policy and one which ideally makes plain that it's > > opt-in and maintainers may choose not to take these patches. > > That sounds pretty much exactly as what I was stating in our meeting. That > is, it is OK to submit a patch written with AI but you must disclose it. It > is also the right of the Maintainer to refuse to take any patch that was > written in AI. They may feel that they want someone who fully understands > what that patch does, and AI can cloud the knowledge of that patch from the > author. > > I guess a statement in submitting-patches.rst would suffice, or should it > be a separate standalone document? If it's separate I think it needs to have a link from submitting-patches.rst to get people to read it. To summarise some other things that came up between the threads: a) I think there should be a standard syntax for stating it is AI written; I'd suggested using a new tag, but others were arguing on the side of reusing existing tags, which seems OK if it is done in a standard way and doesn't confuse existing tools. b) There's a whole spectrum of: i) AI wrote the whole patch based on a vague requirement ii) AI is in the editor and tab completes stuff iii) AI suggests fixes/changes which do you care about? c) But then once you get stuff suggesting fixes/changes people were wondering if you should specify other non-AI tools as well. That might help reviewers who get bombed by a million patches from some conventional tool. d) Either way there needs to be emphasis that the 'Signed-off-by' is a human declaring it's all legal and checked. Dave > -- Steve > -- -----Open up your eyes, open up your mind, open up your code ------- / Dr. David Alan Gilbert | Running GNU/Linux | Happy \ \ dave @ treblig.org | | In Hex / \ _________________________|_____ http://www.treblig.org |_______/