Re: [PATCH v3 0/4] Introducing Hornet LSM

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On Fri, May 2, 2025 at 5:00 PM KP Singh <kpsingh@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > This patch series introduces the Hornet LSM. The goal of Hornet is to provide
> > a signature verification mechanism for eBPF programs.
> >
>
> [...]
>
> >
> > References: [1]
> > https://lore.kernel.org/bpf/20220209054315.73833-1-alexei.starovoitov@xxxxxxxxx/
> > [2]
> > https://lore.kernel.org/bpf/CAADnVQ+wPK1KKZhCgb-Nnf0Xfjk8M1UpX5fnXC=cBzdEYbv_kg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx/
> >
> > Change list: - v2 -> v3 - Remove any and all usage of proprietary bpf APIs
>
> BPF APIs are not proprietary, but you cannot implement BPF program signing
> for BPF users without aligning with the BPF maintainers and the community.
> Signed programs are a UAPI and a key part of how developers experience BPF
> and this is not how we would like signing to be experienced by BPF users.
>
> Some more feedback (which should be pretty obvious) but explicitly:
>
> * Hacks like if (current->pid == 1) return 0; also break your threat model
>   about root being untrusted.

Speaking with Blaise off-list when that change was discussed, I
believe the intent behind that Kconfig option was simply for
development/transition purposes, and not for any long term usage.  My
understanding is that this is why it was a separate build time
configuration and not something that could be toggled at runtime, e.g.
sysctl or similar.

> * You also did not take the feedback into account:
>
>    new = map->ops->map_lookup_elem(map, &key);
>
>   This is not okay without having the BPF maintainers aligned, the same way as
>
>   https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/netdevbpf/patch/20240629084331.3807368-4-kpsingh@xxxxxxxxxx/#25928981
>
>   was not okay. Let's not have double standards.


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