Hi Andy, On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 at 12:16, Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Tue, Apr 22, 2025 at 10:43:59AM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > > On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 at 10:30, Aditya Garg <gargaditya08@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On 22-04-2025 01:37 pm, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > > > > On Tue, 8 Apr 2025 at 08:48, Aditya Garg <gargaditya08@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > ... > > > > Originally, it was %p4cr (reverse-endian), but on the request of the > > > maintainers, it was changed to %p4cn. > > > > Ah, I found it[1]: > > > > | so, it needs more information that this mimics htonl() / ntohl() for > > networking. > > > > IMHO this does not mimic htonl(), as htonl() is a no-op on big-endian. > > while %p4ch and %p4cl yield different results on big-endian. > > > > > So here network means reverse of host, not strictly big-endian. > > > > Please don't call it "network byte order" if that does not have the same > > meaning as in the network subsystem. > > > > Personally, I like "%p4r" (reverse) more... > > (and "%p4ch" might mean human-readable ;-) > > It will confuse the reader. h/r is not very established pair. If you really > wont see h/n, better to drop them completely for now then. Because I'm against > h/r pair. I am not against h/n in se, but I am against bad/confusing naming. The big question is: should it print (A) the value in network byte order, or (B) the reverse of host byte order? If the answer is (A), I see no real reason to have %p4n, as %p4b prints the exact same thing. Moreover, it leaves us without a portable way to print values in reverse without the caller doing an explicit __swab32() (which is not compatible with the %p pass-by-pointer calling convention). If the answer is (B), "%p4n using network byte order" is bad/confusing naming. Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert -- Geert Uytterhoeven -- There's lots of Linux beyond ia32 -- geert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx In personal conversations with technical people, I call myself a hacker. But when I'm talking to journalists I just say "programmer" or something like that. -- Linus Torvalds