On Mon, Apr 21, 2025 at 07:35:24PM +0100, Matt Fleming wrote: > On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 at 16:22, Keith Busch <kbusch@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > On Mon, Apr 21, 2025 at 09:53:10AM +0100, Matt Fleming wrote: > > > Hey there, > > > > > > We're moving to 6.12 at Cloudflare and noticed that write await times > > > in iostat are 10x what they were in 6.6. After a bit of bpftracing > > > (script to find all plug times above 10ms below), it seems like this > > > is an accounting error caused by the plug->cur_ktime optimisation > > > rather than anything more material. > > > > > > It appears as though a task can enter __submit_bio() with ->plug set > > > and a very stale cur_ktime value on the order of milliseconds. Is this > > > expected behaviour? It looks like it leads to inaccurate I/O times. > > > > There are places with a block plug that call cond_resched(), which > > doesn't invalidate the plug's cached ktime. You could end up with a > > stale ktime if your process is scheduled out. > > Is that intentional? I know the cached time is invalidated when > calling schedule(). Does the invalidation need to get pushed down into > __schedule_loop()? > Not sure. I'm also guessing cond_resched is the reason for your observation, so that might be worth confirming is happening in whatever IO paths you're workload is taking in case there's some other explanation. fs-writeback happens to work around it by unplugging if it knows cond_resched is going to schedule. The decision to unplug here wasn't necessarily because of the plug's ktime, but it gets the job done: https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/fs/fs-writeback.c?h=v6.15-rc3#n1984 Doesn't really scale well to copy this for every caller of cond_resched(), though. An io specific helper implementation of cond_resched might help. Or if we don't want cond_resched to unplug (though I feel like you would normally want that), I think we could invalidate the ktime when scheduling to get the stats to read the current ktime after the process is scheduled back in. --- --- a/kernel/sched/core.c +++ b/kernel/sched/core.c @@ -6978,6 +6978,9 @@ static void __sched notrace preempt_schedule_common(void) * between schedule and now. */ } while (need_resched()); + + if (current->flags & PF_BLOCK_TS) + blk_plug_invalidate_ts(current); } #ifdef CONFIG_PREEMPTION --