Re: [PATCH 12/15] block: move debugfs/sysfs register out of freezing queue

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On 4/15/25 5:24 PM, Ming Lei wrote:
>>>
>>> Why is updating nr_requests related with removing hctx attributes?
>>>
>>> Can you explain the side effect in details?
>> Thread 1:
>> writing-to-blk-mq-sysfs-attribute-nr_requests 
>>   -> queue_requests_store ==> freezes queue and acquires ->elevator_lock 
>>     -> blk_mq_update_nr_requests 
>>       -> blk_mq_tag_update_depth
>>         -> blk_mq_alloc_map_and_rqs
>>           -> blk_mq_alloc_rq_map
>>             -> blk_mq_init_tags ==> updates ->nr_tags and ->nr_reserved_tags 
>>
>> Thread2:
>> blk_mq_update_nr_hw_queues
>>   -> __blk_mq_update_nr_hw_queues
>>     -> blk_mq_realloc_tag_set_tags
>>       -> __blk_mq_alloc_map_and_rqs
>>         -> blk_mq_alloc_map_and_rqs
>>           -> blk_mq_alloc_rq_map
>>             -> blk_mq_init_tags ==> updates ->nr_tags and ->nr_reserved_tags 
>>
>> Thread 3:
>> reading-hctx-sysfs-attribute-nr_tags
>>   -> blk_mq_hw_sysfs_show ==> acquires ->elevaor_lock
>>     ->  blk_mq_hw_sysfs_nr_tags_show ==> access nr_tags 
>>
>> Thread 4:
>> reading-hctx-sysfs-attribute-nr_reserved_tags
>>   -> blk_mq_hw_sysfs_show ==> acquires ->elevaor_lock
>>     -> blk_mq_hw_sysfs_nr_reserved_tags_show ==> access nr_reserved_tags
> 
> `hctx->tags` is guaranteed to be live if above ->show() method, and the
> elevator lock is actually not needed, which isn't supposed to protect
> hctx->tags too.
> 
I think, the ->elavtor_lock would still be needed for protecting updates to 
hctx->tags from thread # 1 above and simultaneously reading the hctx->tags from 
thread #3 and #4 above.
  
>>
>> As we can see above, ->nr_tags and ->nr_reserved_tags are also exported 
>> to userspace using hctx sysfs attributes (nr_tags and nr_reserved_tags).
>>
>> So my point was,
>> #1 For alleviating race between nr_hw_queues and nr_requests update,
>>    we need protection (probably using srcu lock) so that ->nr_tags 
>>    and ->nr_reserved_tags are not updated simultaneously.
>>
>> #2 How could we protect race between thread 3 and thread 2 above or 
>>    race between thread 4 and thread 2 above?
> 
> blk_mq_update_nr_hw_queues() calls blk_mq_sysfs_unregister_hctxs() first,
> then user can not see the above attributes before calling blk_mq_sysfs_register_hctxs().
> 
> So there isn't the race.
> 

>>
>>>
>>>> Maybe we also want to protect blk_mq_update_nr_requests
>>>> with srcu read lock (set->update_nr_hwq_srcu) so that it couldn't run while  
>>>> blk_mq_update_nr_hw_queues is in progress?
>>>
>>> Yeah, agree, and it can be one new patch for covering race between
>>> blk_mq_update_nr_requests and blk_mq_update_nr_hw_queues, the point is just
>>> that nr_hw_queues is being changed, and not related with removing hctx
>>> attributes, IMO.
>>>
>> Please note that blk_mq_update_nr_requests also updates q->nr_requests,
> 
> blk_mq_update_nr_requests() uses nr_hw_queues, so there is race between
> blk_mq_update_nr_requests() and blk_mq_update_nr_hw_queues().
> 
Okay so I believe, this could be protected using srcu lock.

>> however looking at all code paths which updates this value is already
>> protected with ->elevator_lock. So the only thing which worries me
>> about updates of ->nr_tags and ->nr_reserved tags as shown above.
> 
> As I mentioned, there isn't such race.
Yes agreed, there's no race between thread 3 and thread 2 or 
thread 4 and thread 2.
 
Thanks,
--Nilay





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