On 5/8/2025 1:29 AM, John Johansen wrote: > On 5/7/25 13:25, Paul Moore wrote: >> On Wed, May 7, 2025 at 6:41 AM Tetsuo Handa >> <penguin-kernel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> On 2025/05/06 23:32, Maxime Bélair wrote: >>>> diff --git a/security/lsm_syscalls.c b/security/lsm_syscalls.c >>>> index dcaad8818679..b39e6635a7d5 100644 >>>> --- a/security/lsm_syscalls.c >>>> +++ b/security/lsm_syscalls.c >>>> @@ -122,5 +122,10 @@ SYSCALL_DEFINE3(lsm_list_modules, u64 __user >>>> *, ids, u32 __user *, size, >>>> SYSCALL_DEFINE5(lsm_manage_policy, u32, lsm_id, u32, op, void >>>> __user *, buf, u32 >>>> __user *, size, u32, flags) >>>> { >>>> - return 0; >>>> + size_t usize; >>>> + >>>> + if (get_user(usize, size)) >>>> + return -EFAULT; >>>> + >>>> + return security_lsm_manage_policy(lsm_id, op, buf, usize, >>>> flags); >>>> } >>> >>> syzbot will report user-controlled unbounded huge size memory >>> allocation attempt. ;-) >>> >>> This interface might be fine for AppArmor, but TOMOYO won't use this >>> interface because >>> TOMOYO's policy is line-oriented ASCII text data where the >>> destination is switched via >>> pseudo‑filesystem's filename ... >> >> While Tetsuo's comment is limited to TOMOYO, I believe the argument >> applies to a number of other LSMs as well. The reality is that there >> is no one policy ideal shared across LSMs and that complicates things >> like the lsm_manage_policy() proposal. I'm intentionally saying >> "complicates" and not "prevents" because I don't want to flat out >> reject something like this, but I think there needs to be a larger >> discussion among the different LSM groups about what such an API >> should look like. We may not need to get every LSM to support this >> new API, but we need to get something that would work for a >> significant majority and would be general/extensible enough that we >> would expect it to work with the majority of future LSMs (as much as >> we can predict the future anyway). >> > > yep, I look at this is just a starting point for discussion. There > isn't going to be any discussion without some code, so here is a v1 > that supports a single LSM let the bike shedding begin. Aside from the issues with allocating a buffer for a big policy I don't see a problem with this proposal. The system call looks a lot like the other LSM interfaces, so any developer who likes those ought to like this one. The infrastructure can easily check the lsm_id and only call the appropriate LSM hook, so no one is going to be interfering with other modules.