[Last-Call] Re: [OPSAWG]draft-ietf-opsawg-pcaplinktype-10 ietf last call Opsdir review

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On Jul 30, 2025, at 12:11 AM, Luis Contreras via Datatracker <noreply@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

> I have reviewed this document as part of the Operational Directorate's ongoing
> effort to review all IETF documents being processed by the IESG. These comments
> were written to improve the operational aspects of the IETF drafts. Document
> editors and WG chairs should treat these comments just like any other last-call
> comments. Some of them are comments intended to provide clarification in
> certain aspects of the document, while the rest are minor.
> 
> /* Comments */
> - Section 2.2. It is stated that "LinkType values 147 to 162 named
> LINKTYPE_RESERVED_xx were originally reserved for Private Use. Their use is
> Deprecated in favour of the values in the 65001-65535 range." It is not clear
> to me if this implies that LinkType values 147 to 162 are then available for
> new allocations or if it is recommended not being used because of their
> previous usage as reserved values. In any case, a clarification statement for
> this is advisable. Note that if those values are intended to be allocatable,
> then it could be convenient to describe any implication in terms of backward
> compatibility.

They should be treated the same way as the values in the 65001-65535 range, and not allocated, to avoid collisions with internal private use of them.

> - No reference is provided for LINKTYPE_ETHERNET even though the
> description refers to IEEE 802.3 Ethernet. Should not be added a reference to
> the appropriate specification by IEEE?

We could, although I'm not inclined to refer to a particular *version* of 802.3.

> - For a number of assigned values (e.g.,
> 5, 7, 99, ...) the description says "Reserved for ...". This gives the
> impression of a non definitive allocation, but something to happen in the
> future. Since they are allocations for legacy link types, should we either
> reconsider the description (i.e., remove "reserved for") or propose some
> statement in that respect in terms of assessing if such reservation is
> effective or not? Anyway, I acknowledge that the mission of the document is not
> auditing the usage of the assigned values but promoting a registry of them. But
> similarly to the recommendation about values 147 to 162 I'm not sure if
> something can be mentioned in this respect, as well. This apllies also to the
> case of Number 208.

Those are not available for assignment.

> - Link types 11 to 49 are described as "not to be use"
> values, but there is not justification for it in the text (Section 2.2
> introduces different cases but not this one). Please provide some information
> about why these numbers should not be used. Same for values 52 to 98.

The tcpdump.org group somewhat arbitrarily decided to start handing out new link-layer type numbers at 100, in order to avoid any unannounced assignments by other in the range below that.

> - No reference is provided for LINKTYPE_RAW even though the description refers to
> IPv4 and IPv6. Should not be added a reference to the appropriate specification
> by IETF?

Yes, we could.

> By the way, it seems to be redundant with Number 228 and 229.

Or, rather, the latter two are redundant with LINKTYPE_RAW, which existed long before LINKTYPE_IPV4 and LINKTYPE_IPV6 were assigned.

They were requested in https://seclists.org/tcpdump/2009/q1/193.

I asked the same question in https://seclists.org/tcpdump/2009/q1/194 - "What does the link-layer header on those packets look like? Are they just raw IPv4 packets with no link-layer header? If so, that's DLT_RAW."

He responded in https://seclists.org/tcpdump/2009/q1/195 - "And it sounds like DLT_RAW is what to use here - ok."

So I'm not sure why I added them in 2010, but here we are.
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