Just caught up on this thread. Looks like John's msg dated below is the latest one. I second John's concern, and also have one more question to clarify below: On Jul 11, 2025, at 2:51 PM, John C Klensin <john-ietf@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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But the problem I, and I think Stephen and Kathleen, are concerned
about is different. From my perspective, it looks like this: we
successfully managed to schedule meetings -- regular, special, and
side -- and make information about them available without making
private information available outside the IETF. The observation
Jeffrey Walton made about becoming the product isn't quite right
because, in a meeting context, most of us are paying and, in others,
the LLC is paying on our behalf.
yes most of us are paying for attending IETF meeting, but that would not directly lead to the conclution that we are using a paid Trello service. Are we? If not, the comment from Jeffrey applies.
John's comment below is independent from the above (paid services can have "special features" that we should be aware). Should we be running tools that
either pose additional privacy threats or require extraordinary
measures to avoid or defeat those threats because those tools provide
special and important extra features not available elsewhere? I'm
prepared to believe the answer is "yes", but I think the community is
entitled to know what those special features are and, if appropriate,
to debate their importance and the tradeoffs required to get them.
john
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