Re: IETF Mailman now behind Cloudflare Captcha?

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Hi Raghu,

All the current measures have been discussed publicly and regularly during the monthly Tools Team meeting.
The next one is on June 10th, which you're more than welcome to attend.

Bot scraping / abuse has led to many instances of the server node crashing / freezing completely.
So yes, it does put "so much more load" on the website, even on GET requests.
Keep in mind that many pages / endpoints are quite old and do heavy computation on every request.
They are being rewritten to leverage caching and pre-computing, but this will take time.

Nick

On Sun, Jun 1, 2025 at 11:05 PM Raghu Saxena <poiasdpoiasd@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
Dear Robert,

On 5/30/25 8:48 PM, Robert Sparks wrote:
> <snipped>
> Its needed to slow the bot scraping (which is very different now than
> it was in past years). You can avoid it by logging into the
> mailarchive with your datatracker credentials.

Has there been public or documented discussion regarding this topic? I
ask out of curiosity, since I can't imagine the "bot scraping" has led
to so much more load that the website now requires captchas. Just
wondering how much more the traffic / resource consumption increased
that the IETF decided to implement captchas even for GET requests.

Regards,
Raghu Saxena


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