Re: Required Google Account to review an IETF meeting. Really?

Joel Halpern <jmh.direct@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> · Sat, 31 May 2025 13:44:06 -0400



    I considered writing a response about what points i thought you
      missed.  But then realized that was the wrong answer.
    Raising the issue was and is the communities right and
      responsibility.  We have done that. 

    
    Choosing the solution is largely a matter for the tools team lead
      by the staff, with direction from the LLC board.   They likely
      will choose to consult with the community to confirm that the
      solution they think best does indeed meet our needs.  But our
      focus is on our needs, not on which tool they should use.
    If you want to build your own prototype, feel free.  But it is
      not an IETF@ issue.
    Yours,
    Joel

    
    On 5/31/2025 1:26 PM, Rob Sayre wrote:

    
      Hi,
        

        fwiw, I just put this into ChatGPT and got a perfectly
          serviceable Python approach.
        

        "can you make a tool to download the youtube videos from a
          playlist and put them on bittorrent with a magnet link?"
        

        ChatGPT said:

        Yes, it's possible to create a tool that:

        - Downloads all videos from a YouTube playlist.

        - Packages them into a .torrent file or seeds them directly via
        BitTorrent.

        - Generates a magnet link so others can download them.

        - However, there are important legal and ethical considerations
        you must be aware of: [...]
        

        I don't know any of the BitTorrent or YouTube libraries,
          but I do know Python, and it looked fine to me. Enough to get
          started anyway, but maybe not a running service.
        

        So, I think it would be easy enough for the IETF to seed
          these. It's really just one small piece after all of the other
          harder work the AV folks have done (good audio, three cameras,
          remote participation, etc).
        

        I'll probably still use YouTube because it works on most
          TVs and I don't need to dedicate a computer to it. But I do
          support the notion that these should not require YouTube.
        

        thanks,
        Rob
        

        On Fri, May 30, 2025 at
          3:43 PM Rob Sayre <sayrer@xxxxxxxxx>
          wrote:

        
          Hi Joel,
            

            I think you're wrong on this one. But I'm not angry
              here.
            

            Joel Halpern <jmh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
              wrote:
            > No, bittorent is not a service, it is a
              technology.
            

            The IETF 122 plenary has about ~750 views according to
              you YouTube:
            https://www.youtube.com/live/0l_QTKtBN3w
            

            We could host that on BitTorrent easily.
            

            https://stackoverflow.com/questions/3844502/how-do-bittorrent-magnet-links-work
            

            The idea is that if a video got so unpopular that only
              the IETF had it, no big deal. I guess we could put on IPFS
              too. :)
            

            Maybe a better question: why not put it on BitTorrent?
            

            thanks,
            Rob