Re: Authorship (was: sob@xxxxxxxxxxx is not long for the world)

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Many other orgs I’m in support email aliases (universities, IEEE, ACM, ARRL, SigmaXi, etc). The IETF could too for authors at least. 

Joe
Joe Touch, temporal epistemologist

On Apr 3, 2025, at 5:11 PM, Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


Exactly, the point of eating our own dog food is so we know what needs fixing and helps us build something better.

What we really need to move to going forward is a personal identifier that is:

* Free or very, very low cost (cents, no recurring fees)
* Unambiguously under the control of the user.

DNS names could have been that before ICANN was established and set itself up so it costs 140 million a year to run. But that is water under the bridge.

Fortunately, all a DNS name provides is a user-friendly handle identifying a user's persona. The design of ATprotocol is instructive here: the handle is merely an aide memoire to the real user identifier which is the hash of a public key used to authenticate updates.

In coarse terms, what if:

* Users can have as many personas as they choose
* Personas can be signed
* Personas can specify a means of validating updates by means of their signature.
* Personas can be published under a DNS handle (@alice.example.com)
* Personas can be exchanged directly by means of a QR code.

I will be bringing a proposal based on these tropes to Madrid:

* Personas are encoded as JSContact documents
* Personas MAY contain addresses for application protocols with associated OpenPGP, SSH, S/MIME, etc. etc. keys
* A new URI form which provides for encryption, authentication and location of the contact blobs is used to create secure references.

I am also working on a little Web tool that will allow people to set up contact packages easily.



On Mon, Mar 31, 2025 at 9:44 PM Lixia Zhang <lixia@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On Mar 31, 2025, at 10:37 AM, Michael Jones <michael_b_jones@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> What percentage of the world population controls (actually, rents) a DNS name?

I interpret Phillip's comment as forward-looking (we know not many people rent a DNS name at this time) position (which I support).
That's why he said "it is really fine to go back and fix things that need fixing."

> Is there any means to determine this?
>                                                                  -- Mike
>
> From: Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2025 9:00 AM
> To: S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: Q Misell <q@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; ietf@xxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Authorship (was: sob@xxxxxxxxxxx is not long for the world)
> OK, so let's take this as an example of a deeper problem: The Internet architecture assumes that we participate as *members of an institution*. Which was a correct assumption when computers cost upwards of the price of a house. It hasn't been a good assumption for a very long time now.
>  We need a registry for personal identifiers controlled by end users.
>  Fortunately, we already have one and it is called the DNS.
>   Seriously, it is really fine to go back and fix things that need fixing. But we should not make temporary repairs that are going to need fixing again.
>  DNS handles are the way forward here.
>   


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