[Last-Call] Re: [Emailcore] Re: Re: Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-emailcore-rfc5321bis-42.txt> (Simple Mail Transfer Protocol) to Internet Standard

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On Fri, Mar 28, 2025 at 3:16 PM Rob Sayre <sayrer@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Fri, Mar 28, 2025 at 2:26 PM Dave Crocker <dhc@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

First explain why there needs to be any text at all about DKIM in the SMTP spec, where SMTP has literally nothing to do with DKIM and DKIM ha literally nothing to do with SMTP.


The acronym "SMTP" appears numerous times in the DKIM RFC, and it is a normative reference.


As far as I can tell, it's a normative reference because RFC 6376 imports ABNF from RFC 5321.  We also said that you could reject a verification failure inline, which has SMTP implications.  But that's it.  If not for those, though, it probably could've/should've been informative.

To wit: A message sitting in a message store can be DKIM-verified.  You don't need any part of the SMTP session to do that.

-MSK
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