On 2025-03-28, at 10:26, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Which is why I am opposed to the growth of the side meetings. You are opposed to the growth of *bad* side meetings. FTFY. Side meetings can be a great, high-bandwidth complement to what’s happening in the group (WG/RG/…) meetings. I have had many of those and got done a lot of work in those. If you get stuck in a presentation-only side meeting with no actual discussion and even no flexibility for that emerging, please scream. > Either do BarBOFs, Can’t hear speaker in noisy bar. No visual support. Table at bar too small, bad planning. Have to walk out of and into venue, late for next meeting. Nothing against a lunch/dinner/bar chat, but if the point is drawing in a reasonable subset of the people interested, Bar BOFs are not so bright. > or do structured virtual online meetings (not during > plenary week) Which can also be nice, but lose the immediate context of being fed by and feeding into the concurrent IETF meeting. Grüße, Carsten
