| Would you consider (say) Philippe Baptiste “a gang member or an advocate for a terrorist organization” (see e.g., https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/19/trump-musk-french-scientist-detained)?
It is not irrational to be concerned non-US citizens may be denied entry to the US (and be required to assume the costs of return).
Regards, -drc On Mar 20, 2025, at 9:36 AM, Tzadik Vanderhoof <tzadik.vanderhoof@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Is this perception of "risk" based on any evidence? What exactly are you "at risk" of happening to you? Can you point to any example of whatever you're afraid of having happened?
I'm assuming you're neither a gang member nor an advocate for a terrorist organization. As far as I know, these are the only types of people that have been affected by any adverse actions, and the only thing that's happened, even to them, is removal from the US.
I assumed we were a group of rational thinkers. I can say categorically that I will not risk going into the U.S. for the foreseeable future, despite holding a valid visa.
Multiple individuals I have spoken to have echoed this sentiment - including people who have pulled out of events like nanog. The risk is just to great for a foreigner and the situation is to fluid to know what’s going to happen going forward.
Andrew People may be willing, but their families and their employers and the companies that insure their employers may well take a different view.
Stewart
Willing and resolute people who understand the importance of supporting Ukrainians regularly take trains from neighboring countries. Anything else?
Regards, Greg You wrote: I don't think we would have continued with a meeting in Kyiv had one been planned.
Why do you think an IETF meeting would not happen if it were planned in Kyiv?
Destruction of the main airport for a start.
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