I don’t think anyone is advocating support of a boycott. I think though that it is prudent to realize that a significant number of people may not feel safe travelling to the U.S. with the current situation, irrespective of if they can get visas or not.
The potential travel bans and the arrest and deportation of people with valid visas creates real concerns and I believe the LLC needs to be cognisant of these concerns.
If a situation exists where a meeting is deemed effectively safe only for the members of the host country - this is not conducive for creating standards that have global applicability
Andrew
On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 at 16:30, Tzadik Vanderhoof <tzadik.vanderhoof@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Visa issues are a valid concern. Trying to accommodate everyone's politically motivated "boycotts" should NOT be. That's tantamount to the IETF taking a position in support of your boycott and is way out of line.On Tue, Mar 18, 2025, 11:33 AM Marie-Jose Montpetit <marie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:Another element is that many Canadians are currently boycotting travel to the US. We are not a majority of IETF participants but it’s worth mentioning.
mjm
Marie-José Montpetit, Ing. Ph.D.
> On Mar 18, 2025, at 3:52 PM, Jan Schaumann <jschauma=40netmeister.org@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Andrew Alston <aa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> The New York Times recently published a list of countries planned for
>> outright travel bans or sharply restricted visas, and another long list of
>> countries that could end up in either the restricted or travel ban list.
>
> In addition to that, it should be noted that there has
> been an increase in reports of people being detained
> despite holding valid visas or entering the US as
> e.g., tourists who do not need a visa, including the
> cases of Fabian Schmidt, Lucas Sielaff, Jessica
> Brösche, or Rebecca Burke (all of whom are from
> countries _not_ on any travel ban list).
>
> Entering the US with a passport that shows neither
> 'male' nor 'female' as the holder's gender is also
> likely a significant risk factor now, and so the
> location may thus practically exclude an entire class
> of people from attending.
>
> -Jan
>
