On 21. 07. 25 13:23, Neal Gompa wrote:
On Mon, Jul 21, 2025 at 7:11 AM Peter Oliver
<lists.fedoraproject.org@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Dear edition maintainers, what would be the most suitable Emacs for your edition?
We build four different GNU Emacs binaries in Fedora. From newest to oldest:
• emacs-pgtk - “Pure” GTK. Wayland (and Broadway) native. Is reportedly better on high-DPI screens, but is disrecommended on X11 by upstream, where is has some bugs versus the hybrid GTK/X11 build. Styled via the GTK theme.
• emacs-gtk+x11 - Uses a mixture of GTK and X11 calls, so can only run on Wayland via XWayland. Styled partly via the GTK theme, and partly via X resources.
• emacs-lucid - Unlike GTK, the Lucid toolkit can repeatedly connect and disconnect from an X11 server, which can be useful when running Emacs remotely. Again, requires XWayland on Wayland. Styled via X resources. Looks at bit more basic (some might say old-fashioned) compared to the GTK builds.
• emacs-nw - “no window system”. Terminal only. Fewer dependecies.
This is potentially pretty confusing for users, so, in Fedora 43, I’ve had a go at suggesting suitable default subpackages for when a user does “dnf install emacs”:
I would probably go with:
Suggests: (emacs-pgtk%{?_isa} if libwayland-server%{?_isa})
Suggests: (emacs-gtk+x11%{?_isa} if xorg-x11-server-Xorg%{?_isa})
Suggests: (emacs-nw unless%{?_isa} unless (libwayland-server%{?_isa}
or xorg-x11-server-Xorg%{?_isa})
I am afraid this won't work.
I am running the Xfce spin (uses X11) and I have libwayland-server installed as
a dependency of many packages:
$ repoquery --installed --whatrequires libwayland-server
clutter-0:1.26.4-14.fc41.x86_64
clutter-gst3-0:3.0.27-19.fc41.x86_64
clutter-gtk-0:1.8.4-19.fc41.x86_64
cogl-0:1.22.8-11.fc41.x86_64
mesa-dri-drivers-0:25.0.7-3.fc41.x86_64
mesa-libEGL-0:25.0.7-3.fc41.x86_64
qt5-qtwayland-0:5.15.17-1.fc41.x86_64
qt6-qtwayland-0:6.8.3-1.fc41.x86_64
spice-gtk3-0:0.42-5.fc41.x86_64
webkit2gtk4.1-0:2.48.3-1.fc41.x86_64
weston-0:14.0.1-2.fc41.x86_64
weston-libs-0:14.0.1-2.fc41.x86_64
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