On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 at 15:36, Stephen Smoogen <ssmoogen@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 at 10:21, Michael Catanzaro <mcatanzaro@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> >> With Wine solved, it sounds like Steam is the only remaining concern. >> >> I think we could actually remove all 32-bit libraries *not* required by >> Steam for Fedora *43*. That should probably be uncontroversial, right? >> I know that doesn't do anything to help with our infrastructure >> concerns, but it will at least spare most maintainers from fixing >> 32-bit build failures. >> > > Going from all the previous infrastructure moves, the Fedora 43 schedule is going to be dominated with the move and rebuilding of the release infrastructure from the ground up. There are always all kinds of little things which pop up and slow down what can be done. The next release is usually then filled with everything that didn't get done because builds and updates were slowed down. Removing several thousand packages in a release would require > > 1. How are you going to remove it? Everyone add a ExcludeArch: , someone fix koji to only allow a specific list? a shadow koji which only builds for x86_32? etc We used to do a special list with koji for PowerPC for packages optimised for powerv7 as a 'ppc64v7' sub arch in the ppc64 BE days, you should be able to provide a list of "end packages" and have something like the the critical path script update the full list there and populate it for i686. The functionality is in already in koji. > 2. What else is broken that comes up because of this. Removing arm32 actually caused problems in completely unrelated parts of the build system because of weird things. > 3. Who is going to do the work? > > I really don't see this being ready by Fedora 44 with the current 'need to get 300+ cat-like developers to agree' that generally needs to happen. > > > > -- > Stephen Smoogen, Red Hat Automotive > Let us be kind to one another, for most of us are fighting a hard battle. -- Ian MacClaren > -- > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue -- _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
