Meeting Aug 19, 2025 at 08:59 CDT
Summary
The meeting, attended by Michael Catanzaro, Nieves Montero Fernandez,
Allan Day, and Chris Murphy, achieved quorum after initial attendance
issues. The group unanimously approved the removal of Rhythmbox from
the default Fedora install, as proposed by Michael Catanzaro, due to
its outdated status. Michael Catanzaro also discussed the longstanding
issue of user data encryption and a desktop freezing issue, for which
Chris Murphy suggested using SSH and `journalctl -fk` for debugging.
Details
Removal of Rhythmbox from Default Install
Michael Catanzaro proposed removing Rhythmbox from the default Fedora
install, citing its seven-year history as a topic and its current
unsuitability as a core application. Allan Day expressed support for
its removal, noting its antiquated design and GTK 3 status, while Chris
Murphy indicated they did not use it and had no strong opinion. The
group approved the removal due to a lack of objections.
Encryption of User Data
Michael Catanzaro brought up the long-standing issue of user data
encryption, which has been open since October 2018. He noted that the
original assignee, Owen, was no longer working on it. Michael Catanzaro
suggested that he would talk to Adrian for their opinion on the next
steps, with Allan Day agreeing to this approach.
Desktop Freezing Issue
Michael Catanzaro reported an issue with their desktop freezing
multiple times a day since upgrading to Fedora 43. They noted that the
system journal did not initially show relevant information but later
discovered amdgpu driver errors occurring five minutes before freezes,
suggesting a possible cause. Chris Murphy suggested enabling SSH and
using `journalctl -fk` from a second computer to monitor kernel
messages and potentially capture the issue before the system freezes.
Suggested next steps
* Michael Catanzaro will talk to Adrian about the encryption of user
data excluding system data.
* Michael Catanzaro will report a bug for the freezing desktop issue.
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