Fedora Workstation Working Group Meeting 2025-09-09 (Gemini Summary)

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Summary

The GNOME 49.rc mega update was prepared and appears ready, fixing most severe known issues for GNOME packages hosted on download.gnome.org, as discussed by Michael Catanzaro and Matthias Clasen. Michael Catanzaro expressed concerns about missing packages and the ownership of approximately half of the packages by inactive contributors, leading to a discussion on update strategies. The group decided against using a wide gamut background for Fedora but will mention it in release notes or at the release party. Jef Spaleta highlighted the importance of `bootc` development and aligning efforts for the Fedora 44 release cycle, leading to plans by Matthias Clasen to invite Sebastian Wick and Timothee to future meetings to discuss Flatpaks and Silverblue developments.

Details

GNOME 49.rc Mega Update

Michael Catanzaro provided an update on the GNOME 49.rc mega update, stating that it was prepared last week and seems ready as no one has complained yet. Matthias Clasen noted that this update fixes all known issues, and Michael Catanzaro clarified that it updates GNOME packages hosted on download.gnome.org for which they have commit access. Luna Jernberg initially confused this with the upstream version, leading to a discussion about reviewing the list of owned packages and their update strategy.

Missing Packages and Ownership

Michael Catanzaro identified that `libgexiv2` was missing from their package list and expressed concern that approximately half of the packages are owned by individuals who no longer contribute to Fedora. They mentioned the need for a strategy to ensure all packages are in good shape, differentiating between those updated automatically by mclazy, by Packit, and those not updated automatically at all.

GNOME 49 Final Release and Test Days

Matthias Clasen noted that the GNOME 49 final releases would trickle in this week, and Michael Catanzaro anticipated that the transition from RC to final would not be difficult, as breakage is uncommon. Matthias Clasen decided to reach out to Adam or Kamil regarding a test day request for the GNOME 49 final release.

Wide Gamut Backgrounds in GNOME

Matthias Clasen proposed using an upstream GNOME background that supports wide gamut display to showcase new background capabilities in Fedora. Michael Catanzaro raised a concern that users without wide gamut monitors would not see the background as intended. After some discussion, including input from Luna Jernberg and Tomáš Popela, the group decided against using the proposed "pixel pusher" background for Fedora, opting to stick with the existing Fedora wallpaper. However, they considered mentioning the wide gamut background in release notes or at the release party.

Bootc and Immutable OS

Jef Spaleta expressed their focus on unblocking `bootc` development, particularly concerning Silverblue, and sought to understand any immediate blockers for the workstation group. Luna Jernberg indicated limited experience with `bootc` and immutable systems, focusing on Swedish translations. Matthias Clasen connected immutability with Flatpaks, prompting Jef Spaleta to acknowledge Flatpaks as an important topic for future discussion due to their alignment with OCI and the sunsetting of OS3.

Future of Flatpaks and Silverblue

Matthias Clasen plans to invite Sebastian Wick to a future meeting to discuss current developments in the Flatpak space, a suggestion supported by Luna Jernberg. Tomáš Popela suggested inviting Timothee as well, highlighting their significant contributions to advancing Silverblue. Jef Spaleta emphasized the need to align efforts for the Fedora 44 release cycle to make progress on `bootc` and related technologies, aiming for a less divisive and more collaborative future across the ecosystem.

General Updates

Jens-Ulrik Petersen announced the i18n test week for general awareness. Matthias Clasen provided a small update on the Glycin transition, having implemented gdk-pixbuf animation based on Glycin to ensure GIF animations continue to work in GNOME 49. Luna Jernberg mentioned they had been traveling and were still recovering from illness, planning to return to GNOME-related work when feeling better.

Suggested next steps

* Michael Catanzaro will add the gexiv2 package to tracking spreadsheet and follow up with Tomáš Popela and Felipe to review the list of packages the group owns and how they update them. * Matthias Clasen will reach out to Adam or Kamil to ask for a test date. * Matthias Clasen will reach out to Sebastian Wick and invite him for one of the next weeks to talk about the future of flatpack.


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