Here is our edited Gemini summary of this meeting:
Jun 3, 2025
Meeting Jun 3, 2025 at 08:48 CDT Summary
Michael Catanzaro reported a recent mutter update that caused
significant breakage in X11 and XWayland applications, which was
quickly resolved. Matthias Clasen initiated a discussion about the
current updates policy, leading to Allan Day's proposal for a minimum
testing time for updates, and Nieves Montero Fernandez volunteered to
discuss this with Fedora QA and Adam Williamson. Participants also
received updates on the Fedora Release Party, the upcoming Flock event,
the GUADEC timetable, and a suggestion from Matthias Clasen to discuss
GNOME modernization with Adrian Vovk in a future meeting.
Details
Mutter Update Breakage
Michael Catanzaro reported that a recent mutter update caused severe
breakage in all X11 and XWayland applications. The update was released
on Wednesday, and a Reddit thread alerted users on Saturday. Michael
Catanzaro pushed out a fixed update on Sunday.
Updates Policy Discussion
Matthias Clasen initiated a discussion on whether the current updates
policy should be adjusted to prevent similar issues in the future. The
conversation involved proposals for extending the mandatory wait time
in update testing, especially for core or important packages.
Minimum Testing Time Proposal
Allan Day proposed implementing a minimum testing time for updates,
regardless of positive karma, to allow more opportunity for issues to
be uncovered. While acknowledging that urgent fixes might need to
bypass this, Matthias Clasen agreed with the idea. Michel Lind
suggested disabling push by karma and manually pushing after a set
period, but Matthias Clasen noted the overhead.
Action on Updates Policy Change
Nieves Montero Fernandez volunteered to discuss the proposal for a
mandatory minimum testing time with Fedora QA and Adam Williamson. This
action aims to explore how such a change could be implemented within
the current update system.
Fedora Release Party Update
Matthias Clasen mentioned their participation in the Fedora Release
Party, where they provided a brief update on Workstation changes. Allan
Day thanked Matthias Clasen for doing this.
Future Meeting Topic: GNOME Modernization
Matthias Clasen suggested inviting Adrian Vovk to a future meeting to
discuss their work on gnome-session and GDM modernization, including
efforts to reduce reliance on X and integrate systemd technologies,
which could impact Workstation. Matthias Clasen will schedule this in
the coming weeks.
Flock and GUADEC
Matthias Clasen reminded attendees about Flock happening this week,
with Workstation presentations planned. Allan Day mentioned that the
GUADEC timetable is also now available.
Suggested next steps
Nieves Montero Fernandez will talk to Adam from Fedora QA about adding
a mandatory minimum testing time for updates.
Matthias Clasen will pencil in a meeting with Adrian Vovk to discuss
gnome-session and GDM modernization.
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