Re: [RFC 0/4] BTF archive with unmodified pahole+toolchain

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On Thu, Aug 7, 2025 at 11:25 AM Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
<acme@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
> This is complementary to today's series from Alan Maguire, as we can use
> the one liner for the kernel build process to test his series without
> requiring installing a toolchain that generates BTF for each .o file
> that will result in vmlinux.
>
> Next steps on my side are to:
>
> 1. change pahole for when it receives --format_path=btf check if
> btf__is_archive(btf) is true, then just replace the current vmlinux .BTF
> contents with the raw data in this just loaded BTF, short circuiting
> the whole process.
>
> 2. the kernel build process should be changed to allow one to ask for
> just BTF, not DWARF, and if so, using the above method, strip the DWARF
> info after using it to generate BTF.
>
> Then when compilers are producing BTF, we switch to that, falling back
> to the above method when a compiler is known to generate buggy BTF.
>
> And also to use in CIs, to compare the output generated by the various
> methods in the various components.
>
> 3. In 2 we can even use the same scheme we use for parallelizing DWARF
> loading when loading all the BTF archive members concatenated in vmlinux
> to dedup them.

Before you jump into 1,2,3 let's discuss the end goal.
I think the assumption here is that this btf-for-each-.o approach
is supposed to speed up the build, right ?
pahole step on vmlinux is noticeable, but it's still a fraction
of three vmlinux linking steps.
How much are we realistically thinking to shave off of that pahole dedup time?





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