On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 at 13:04, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > That said, I think they are problematic too, in that I don't think > > they are universally available, so if you want to trace some > > executable without build ids - and there are good reasons to do that - > > you might hate being limited that way. > > Right, but these days gdb (and other traditional tools) supports it and > downloads it (perf should do it with a one-time sticky question too, > does it already in some cases, unconditionally, that should be fixed as > well), most distros have it: So I'm literally thinking one very valid case is debugging some third-party binary with tracing. End result: the whole "most distros have it" is just not relevant to that situation. Linus