On Fri, Aug 8, 2025 at 8:58 AM Alexei Starovoitov
<alexei.starovoitov@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Aug 6, 2025 at 1:44 AM Menglong Dong <menglong8.dong@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 1, 2025 at 12:15 AM Alexei Starovoitov
> > <alexei.starovoitov@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 2:20 AM Menglong Dong <menglong8.dong@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Jul 17, 2025 at 6:35 AM Alexei Starovoitov
> > > > <alexei.starovoitov@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2025 at 11:24 AM Peter Zijlstra <peterz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2025 at 09:56:11AM -0700, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Maybe Peter has better ideas ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is it possible to express runqueues::nr_pinned as an alias?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > extern unsigned int __attribute__((alias("runqueues.nr_pinned"))) this_nr_pinned;
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And use:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > __this_cpu_inc(&this_nr_pinned);
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This syntax doesn't actually seem to work; but can we construct
> > > > > > something like that?
> > > > >
> > > > > Yeah. Iant is right. It's a string and not a pointer dereference.
> > > > > It never worked.
> > > > >
> > > > > Few options:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1.
> > > > > struct rq {
> > > > > +#ifdef CONFIG_SMP
> > > > > + unsigned int nr_pinned;
> > > > > +#endif
> > > > > /* runqueue lock: */
> > > > > raw_spinlock_t __lock;
> > > > >
> > > > > @@ -1271,9 +1274,6 @@ struct rq {
> > > > > struct cpuidle_state *idle_state;
> > > > > #endif
> > > > >
> > > > > -#ifdef CONFIG_SMP
> > > > > - unsigned int nr_pinned;
> > > > > -#endif
> > > > >
> > > > > but ugly...
> > > > >
> > > > > 2.
> > > > > static unsigned int nr_pinned_offset __ro_after_init __used;
> > > > > RUNTIME_CONST(nr_pinned_offset, nr_pinned_offset)
> > > > >
> > > > > overkill for what's needed
> > > > >
> > > > > 3.
> > > > > OFFSET(RQ_nr_pinned, rq, nr_pinned);
> > > > > then
> > > > > #include <generated/asm-offsets.h>
> > > > >
> > > > > imo the best.
> > > >
> > > > I had a try. The struct rq is not visible to asm-offsets.c, so we
> > > > can't define it in arch/xx/kernel/asm-offsets.c. Do you mean
> > > > to define a similar rq-offsets.c in kernel/sched/ ? It will be more
> > > > complex than the way 2, and I think the second way 2 is
> > > > easier :/
> > >
> > > 2 maybe easier, but it's an overkill.
> > > I still think asm-offset is cleaner.
> > > arch/xx shouldn't be used, of course, since this nr_pinned should
> > > be generic for all archs.
> > > We can do something similar to drivers/memory/emif-asm-offsets.c
> > > and do that within kernel/sched/.
> > > rq-offsets.c as you said.
> > > It will generate rq-offsets.h in a build dir that can be #include-d.
> > >
> > > I thought about another alternative (as a derivative of 1):
> > > split nr_pinned from 'struct rq' into its own per-cpu variable,
> > > but I don't think that will work, since rq_has_pinned_tasks()
> > > doesn't always operate on this_rq().
> > > So the acceptable choices are realistically 1 and 3 and
> > > rq-offsets.c seems cleaner.
> > > Pls give it another try.
> >
> > Generally speaking, the way 3 works. The only problem is how
> > we handle this_rq(). I introduced following code in
> > include/linux/sched.h:
> >
> > struct rq;
> > DECLARE_PER_CPU_SHARED_ALIGNED(struct rq, runqueues);
> > #define this_rq_ptr() arch_raw_cpu_ptr(&runqueues)
> >
> > The this_rq_ptr() is used in migrate_enable(). I have to use the
> > arch_raw_cpu_ptr() for it. this_cpu_ptr() can't be used here, as
> > it will fail on this_cpu_ptr -> raw_cpu_ptr -> __verify_pcpu_ptr:
> >
> > #define __verify_pcpu_ptr(ptr) \
> > do { \
> > const void __percpu *__vpp_verify = (typeof((ptr) + 0))NULL; \
> > (void)__vpp_verify; \
> > } while (0)
> >
> > The struct rq is not available here, which makes the typeof((ptr) + 0)
> > fail during compiling. What can we do here?
>
> Interesting.
> The comment says:
> * + 0 is required in order to convert the pointer type from a
> * potential array type to a pointer to a single item of the array.
>
> so maybe we can do some macro magic to avoid '+ 0'
> when type is already pointer,
> but for now let's proceed with arch_raw_cpu_ptr().
OK
>
> > According to my testing, the performance of fentry increased from
> > 111M/s to 121M/s with migrate_enable/disable inlined.
>
> Very nice.
>
> > Following is the whole patch:
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > diff --git a/Kbuild b/Kbuild
> > index f327ca86990c..13324b4bbe23 100644
> > --- a/Kbuild
> > +++ b/Kbuild
> > @@ -34,13 +34,24 @@ arch/$(SRCARCH)/kernel/asm-offsets.s:
> > $(timeconst-file) $(bounds-file)
> > $(offsets-file): arch/$(SRCARCH)/kernel/asm-offsets.s FORCE
> > $(call filechk,offsets,__ASM_OFFSETS_H__)
> >
> > +# Generate rq-offsets.h
> > +
> > +rq-offsets-file := include/generated/rq-offsets.h
> > +
> > +targets += kernel/sched/rq-offsets.s
> > +
> > +kernel/sched/rq-offsets.s: $(offsets-file)
> > +
> > +$(rq-offsets-file): kernel/sched/rq-offsets.s FORCE
> > + $(call filechk,offsets,__RQ_OFFSETS_H__)
> > +
> > # Check for missing system calls
> >
> > quiet_cmd_syscalls = CALL $<
> > cmd_syscalls = $(CONFIG_SHELL) $< $(CC) $(c_flags)
> > $(missing_syscalls_flags)
> >
> > PHONY += missing-syscalls
> > -missing-syscalls: scripts/checksyscalls.sh $(offsets-file)
> > +missing-syscalls: scripts/checksyscalls.sh $(rq-offsets-file)
> > $(call cmd,syscalls)
> >
> > # Check the manual modification of atomic headers
> > diff --git a/include/linux/preempt.h b/include/linux/preempt.h
> > index 1fad1c8a4c76..3a1c08a75c09 100644
> > --- a/include/linux/preempt.h
> > +++ b/include/linux/preempt.h
> > @@ -369,64 +369,6 @@ static inline void preempt_notifier_init(struct
> > preempt_notifier *notifier,
> >
> > #endif
> >
> > -/*
> > - * Migrate-Disable and why it is undesired.
>
> Keep the comment where it is. It will keep the diff smaller.
> There is really no need to move it.
OK
>
> > - *
> > - * When a preempted task becomes elegible to run under the ideal model (IOW it
>
> but fix the typos.
OK
>
> > - * becomes one of the M highest priority tasks), it might still have to wait
> > - * for the preemptee's migrate_disable() section to complete. Thereby suffering
> > - * a reduction in bandwidth in the exact duration of the migrate_disable()
> > - * section.
> > - *
> > - * Per this argument, the change from preempt_disable() to migrate_disable()
> > - * gets us:
> > - *
> > - * - a higher priority tasks gains reduced wake-up latency; with
> > preempt_disable()
> > - * it would have had to wait for the lower priority task.
> > - *
> > - * - a lower priority tasks; which under preempt_disable() could've instantly
> > - * migrated away when another CPU becomes available, is now constrained
> > - * by the ability to push the higher priority task away, which
> > might itself be
> > - * in a migrate_disable() section, reducing it's available bandwidth.
> > - *
> > - * IOW it trades latency / moves the interference term, but it stays in the
> > - * system, and as long as it remains unbounded, the system is not fully
> > - * deterministic.
> > - *
> > - *
> > - * The reason we have it anyway.
> > - *
> > - * PREEMPT_RT breaks a number of assumptions traditionally held. By forcing a
> > - * number of primitives into becoming preemptible, they would also allow
> > - * migration. This turns out to break a bunch of per-cpu usage. To this end,
> > - * all these primitives employ migirate_disable() to restore this implicit
> > - * assumption.
> > - *
> > - * This is a 'temporary' work-around at best. The correct solution is getting
> > - * rid of the above assumptions and reworking the code to employ explicit
> > - * per-cpu locking or short preempt-disable regions.
> > - *
> > - * The end goal must be to get rid of migrate_disable(), alternatively we need
> > - * a schedulability theory that does not depend on abritrary migration.
>
> and this one.
OK
>
> > - *
> > - *
> > - * Notes on the implementation.
> > - *
> > - * The implementation is particularly tricky since existing code patterns
> > - * dictate neither migrate_disable() nor migrate_enable() is allowed to block.
> > - * This means that it cannot use cpus_read_lock() to serialize against hotplug,
> > - * nor can it easily migrate itself into a pending affinity mask change on
> > - * migrate_enable().
> > - *
> > - *
> > - * Note: even non-work-conserving schedulers like semi-partitioned depends on
> > - * migration, so migrate_disable() is not only a problem for
> > - * work-conserving schedulers.
> > - *
> > - */
> > -extern void migrate_disable(void);
> > -extern void migrate_enable(void);
> > -
> > /**
> > * preempt_disable_nested - Disable preemption inside a normally
> > preempt disabled section
> > *
> > @@ -471,7 +413,6 @@ static __always_inline void preempt_enable_nested(void)
> >
> > DEFINE_LOCK_GUARD_0(preempt, preempt_disable(), preempt_enable())
> > DEFINE_LOCK_GUARD_0(preempt_notrace, preempt_disable_notrace(),
> > preempt_enable_notrace())
> > -DEFINE_LOCK_GUARD_0(migrate, migrate_disable(), migrate_enable())
>
> hmm. why?
Because we moved migrate_disable and migrate_enable to
include/linux/sched.h, which makes them not available in
include/linux/preempt.h, so we need to move this line to
include/linux/sched.h too.
>
> > #ifdef CONFIG_PREEMPT_DYNAMIC
> >
> > diff --git a/include/linux/sched.h b/include/linux/sched.h
> > index 40d2fa90df42..365ac6d17504 100644
> > --- a/include/linux/sched.h
> > +++ b/include/linux/sched.h
> > @@ -48,6 +48,9 @@
> > #include <linux/uidgid_types.h>
> > #include <linux/tracepoint-defs.h>
> > #include <asm/kmap_size.h>
> > +#ifndef COMPILE_OFFSETS
> > +#include <generated/rq-offsets.h>
> > +#endif
> >
> > /* task_struct member predeclarations (sorted alphabetically): */
> > struct audit_context;
> > @@ -2299,4 +2302,127 @@ static __always_inline void
> > alloc_tag_restore(struct alloc_tag *tag, struct allo
> > #define alloc_tag_restore(_tag, _old) do {} while (0)
> > #endif
> >
> > +#if defined(CONFIG_SMP) && !defined(COMPILE_OFFSETS)
> > +
> > +extern void __migrate_enable(void);
> > +
> > +struct rq;
> > +DECLARE_PER_CPU_SHARED_ALIGNED(struct rq, runqueues);
> > +#define this_rq_ptr() arch_raw_cpu_ptr(&runqueues)
> > +
> > +/*
> > + * Migrate-Disable and why it is undesired.
> > + *
> > + * When a preempted task becomes elegible to run under the ideal model (IOW it
> > + * becomes one of the M highest priority tasks), it might still have to wait
> > + * for the preemptee's migrate_disable() section to complete. Thereby suffering
> > + * a reduction in bandwidth in the exact duration of the migrate_disable()
> > + * section.
> > + *
> > + * Per this argument, the change from preempt_disable() to migrate_disable()
> > + * gets us:
> > + *
> > + * - a higher priority tasks gains reduced wake-up latency; with
> > preempt_disable()
> > + * it would have had to wait for the lower priority task.
> > + *
> > + * - a lower priority tasks; which under preempt_disable() could've instantly
> > + * migrated away when another CPU becomes available, is now constrained
> > + * by the ability to push the higher priority task away, which
> > might itself be
> > + * in a migrate_disable() section, reducing it's available bandwidth.
> > + *
> > + * IOW it trades latency / moves the interference term, but it stays in the
> > + * system, and as long as it remains unbounded, the system is not fully
> > + * deterministic.
> > + *
> > + *
> > + * The reason we have it anyway.
> > + *
> > + * PREEMPT_RT breaks a number of assumptions traditionally held. By forcing a
> > + * number of primitives into becoming preemptible, they would also allow
> > + * migration. This turns out to break a bunch of per-cpu usage. To this end,
> > + * all these primitives employ migirate_disable() to restore this implicit
> > + * assumption.
> > + *
> > + * This is a 'temporary' work-around at best. The correct solution is getting
> > + * rid of the above assumptions and reworking the code to employ explicit
> > + * per-cpu locking or short preempt-disable regions.
> > + *
> > + * The end goal must be to get rid of migrate_disable(), alternatively we need
> > + * a schedulability theory that does not depend on abritrary migration.
> > + *
> > + *
> > + * Notes on the implementation.
> > + *
> > + * The implementation is particularly tricky since existing code patterns
> > + * dictate neither migrate_disable() nor migrate_enable() is allowed to block.
> > + * This means that it cannot use cpus_read_lock() to serialize against hotplug,
> > + * nor can it easily migrate itself into a pending affinity mask change on
> > + * migrate_enable().
> > + *
> > + *
> > + * Note: even non-work-conserving schedulers like semi-partitioned depends on
> > + * migration, so migrate_disable() is not only a problem for
> > + * work-conserving schedulers.
> > + *
> > + */
> > +static inline void migrate_enable(void)
> > +{
> > + struct task_struct *p = current;
> > +
> > +#ifdef CONFIG_DEBUG_PREEMPT
> > + /*
> > + * Check both overflow from migrate_disable() and superfluous
> > + * migrate_enable().
> > + */
> > + if (WARN_ON_ONCE((s16)p->migration_disabled <= 0))
> > + return;
> > +#endif
> > +
> > + if (p->migration_disabled > 1) {
> > + p->migration_disabled--;
> > + return;
> > + }
> > +
> > + /*
> > + * Ensure stop_task runs either before or after this, and that
> > + * __set_cpus_allowed_ptr(SCA_MIGRATE_ENABLE) doesn't schedule().
> > + */
> > + guard(preempt)();
> > + __migrate_enable();
>
> You're leaving performance on the table.
> In many case bpf is one and only user of migrate_enable/disable
> and it's not nested.
> So this call is likely hot.
> Move 'if (p->cpus_ptr != &p->cpus_mask)' check into .h
> and only keep slow path of __set_cpus_allowed_ptr() in .c
Oops, my mistake, I should do it this way :/
>
> Can probably wrap it with likely() too.
>
> > + /*
> > + * Mustn't clear migration_disabled() until cpus_ptr points back at the
> > + * regular cpus_mask, otherwise things that race (eg.
> > + * select_fallback_rq) get confused.
> > + */
> > + barrier();
> > + p->migration_disabled = 0;
> > + (*(unsigned int *)((void *)this_rq_ptr() + RQ_nr_pinned))--;
> > +}
> > +
> > +static inline void migrate_disable(void)
> > +{
> > + struct task_struct *p = current;
> > +
> > + if (p->migration_disabled) {
> > +#ifdef CONFIG_DEBUG_PREEMPT
> > + /*
> > + *Warn about overflow half-way through the range.
> > + */
> > + WARN_ON_ONCE((s16)p->migration_disabled < 0);
> > +#endif
> > + p->migration_disabled++;
> > + return;
> > + }
> > +
> > + guard(preempt)();
> > + (*(unsigned int *)((void *)this_rq_ptr() + RQ_nr_pinned))++;
> > + p->migration_disabled = 1;
> > +}
> > +#else
> > +static inline void migrate_disable(void) { }
> > +static inline void migrate_enable(void) { }
> > +#endif
> > +
> > +DEFINE_LOCK_GUARD_0(migrate, migrate_disable(), migrate_enable())
> > +
> > #endif
> > diff --git a/kernel/bpf/verifier.c b/kernel/bpf/verifier.c
> > index 399f03e62508..75d5f145ca60 100644
> > --- a/kernel/bpf/verifier.c
> > +++ b/kernel/bpf/verifier.c
> > @@ -23853,8 +23853,7 @@ int bpf_check_attach_target(struct
> > bpf_verifier_log *log,
> > BTF_SET_START(btf_id_deny)
> > BTF_ID_UNUSED
> > #ifdef CONFIG_SMP
> > -BTF_ID(func, migrate_disable)
> > -BTF_ID(func, migrate_enable)
> > +BTF_ID(func, __migrate_enable)
> > #endif
> > #if !defined CONFIG_PREEMPT_RCU && !defined CONFIG_TINY_RCU
> > BTF_ID(func, rcu_read_unlock_strict)
> > diff --git a/kernel/sched/core.c b/kernel/sched/core.c
> > index 3ec00d08d46a..b521024c99ed 100644
> > --- a/kernel/sched/core.c
> > +++ b/kernel/sched/core.c
> > @@ -119,6 +119,7 @@ EXPORT_TRACEPOINT_SYMBOL_GPL(sched_update_nr_running_tp);
> > EXPORT_TRACEPOINT_SYMBOL_GPL(sched_compute_energy_tp);
> >
> > DEFINE_PER_CPU_SHARED_ALIGNED(struct rq, runqueues);
> > +EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(runqueues);
>
> why?
Because the runqueues referenced in migrate_enable/migrate_disable
directly, and they can be used in modules, we need to export
the runqueues. Isn't it?
>
> >
> > #ifdef CONFIG_SCHED_PROXY_EXEC
> > DEFINE_STATIC_KEY_TRUE(__sched_proxy_exec);
> > @@ -2375,28 +2376,7 @@ static void migrate_disable_switch(struct rq
> > *rq, struct task_struct *p)
> > __do_set_cpus_allowed(p, &ac);
> > }
> >
> > -void migrate_disable(void)
> > -{
> > - struct task_struct *p = current;
> > -
> > - if (p->migration_disabled) {
> > -#ifdef CONFIG_DEBUG_PREEMPT
> > - /*
> > - *Warn about overflow half-way through the range.
> > - */
> > - WARN_ON_ONCE((s16)p->migration_disabled < 0);
> > -#endif
> > - p->migration_disabled++;
> > - return;
> > - }
> > -
> > - guard(preempt)();
> > - this_rq()->nr_pinned++;
> > - p->migration_disabled = 1;
> > -}
> > -EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(migrate_disable);
> > -
> > -void migrate_enable(void)
> > +void __migrate_enable(void)
> > {
> > struct task_struct *p = current;
> > struct affinity_context ac = {
> > @@ -2404,37 +2384,10 @@ void migrate_enable(void)
> > .flags = SCA_MIGRATE_ENABLE,
> > };
> >
> > -#ifdef CONFIG_DEBUG_PREEMPT
> > - /*
> > - * Check both overflow from migrate_disable() and superfluous
> > - * migrate_enable().
> > - */
> > - if (WARN_ON_ONCE((s16)p->migration_disabled <= 0))
> > - return;
> > -#endif
> > -
> > - if (p->migration_disabled > 1) {
> > - p->migration_disabled--;
> > - return;
> > - }
> > -
> > - /*
> > - * Ensure stop_task runs either before or after this, and that
> > - * __set_cpus_allowed_ptr(SCA_MIGRATE_ENABLE) doesn't schedule().
> > - */
> > - guard(preempt)();
> > if (p->cpus_ptr != &p->cpus_mask)
> > __set_cpus_allowed_ptr(p, &ac);
> > - /*
> > - * Mustn't clear migration_disabled() until cpus_ptr points back at the
> > - * regular cpus_mask, otherwise things that race (eg.
> > - * select_fallback_rq) get confused.
> > - */
> > - barrier();
> > - p->migration_disabled = 0;
> > - this_rq()->nr_pinned--;
> > }
> > -EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(migrate_enable);
> > +EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(__migrate_enable);
> >
> > static inline bool rq_has_pinned_tasks(struct rq *rq)
> > {
> > diff --git a/kernel/sched/rq-offsets.c b/kernel/sched/rq-offsets.c
> > new file mode 100644
> > index 000000000000..a23747bbe25b
> > --- /dev/null
> > +++ b/kernel/sched/rq-offsets.c
> > @@ -0,0 +1,12 @@
> > +// SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0
> > +#define COMPILE_OFFSETS
> > +#include <linux/kbuild.h>
> > +#include <linux/types.h>
> > +#include "sched.h"
> > +
> > +int main(void)
> > +{
> > + DEFINE(RQ_nr_pinned, offsetof(struct rq, nr_pinned));
>
> This part looks nice and sweet. Not sure what you were concerned about.
The usage of arch_raw_cpu_ptr() looks ugly and there is
no such usage existing, which made me concerned.
>
> Respin it as a proper patch targeting tip tree.
>
> And explain the motivation in commit log with detailed
> 'perf report' before/after along with 111M/s to 121M/s speed up,
>
> I suspect with my other __set_cpus_allowed_ptr() suggestion
> the speed up should be even bigger.
It should be. I'll respin this patch and send it to the tip tree.
Thanks!
Menglong Dong
>
> > + return 0;
> > +}
