Re: [PATCH v2 3/6] locking/local_lock: Introduce local_lock_lockdep_start/end()

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On 7/11/25 17:17, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> On 2025-07-11 11:55:22 [+0200], Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>> On 7/11/25 09:50, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
>> > On 2025-07-08 18:53:00 [-0700], Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
>> >> From: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> 
>> >> Introduce local_lock_lockdep_start/end() pair to teach lockdep
>> >> about a region of execution where per-cpu local_lock is not taken
>> >> and lockdep should consider such local_lock() as "trylock" to
>> >> avoid multiple false-positives:
>> >> - lockdep doesn't like when the same lock is taken in normal and
>> >>   in NMI context
>> >> - lockdep cannot recognize that local_locks that protect kmalloc
>> >>   buckets are different local_locks and not taken together
>> >> 
>> >> This pair of lockdep aid is used by slab in the following way:
>> >> 
>> >> if (local_lock_is_locked(&s->cpu_slab->lock))
>> >> 	goto out;
>> >> local_lock_lockdep_start(&s->cpu_slab->lock);
>> >> p = ___slab_alloc(s, gfpflags, node, addr, c, orig_size);
>> >> local_lock_lockdep_end(&s->cpu_slab->lock);
>> >> 
>> >> Where ___slab_alloc() is calling
>> >> local_lock_irqsave(&s->cpu_slab->lock, ...) many times,
>> >> and all of them will not deadlock since this lock is not taken.
>> > 
>> > So you prefer this instead of using a trylock variant in ___slab_alloc()
>> > which would simply return in case the trylock fails?
>> 
>> The code isn't always in a position to "simply return". On !RT I think we
>> can at least assume that if we succeeded once, it means we're not a irq/nmi
>> interrupting a locked context so we'll succeed the following attempts too.
>> On RT IIUC the lock might be taken by someone else, so a trylock might fail
>> (even if it should also mean we're in a context that can do a non-try lock).
> 
> There is this parent check. If the parent check "allows" the allocation
> then on !RT the trylock should always succeed. So the return "empty
> handed" would be there but should not happen kind of thing.
> 
> On RT this is different so local_lock_is_locked() will return false but
> the trylock might fail if the lock is acquired by another task.
> 
> But then with this change we do trylock from lockdep's point of view
> while in reality we do the full locking including possible context
> switch.
> 
> That is why I don't like the part where we trick lockdep.
> 
> If we the parent check we could trylock for !RT and normal lock for RT
> what we actual do.
> If there is no parent check then we could do "normal lock" on both
> sides.

So you mean the approach of v1 with local_lock_irqsave_check()?

https://lore.kernel.org/bpf/20250501032718.65476-5-alexei.starovoitov@xxxxxxxxx/#t

> Sebastian





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