> On Jul 9, 2025, at 9:06 AM, Mickaël Salaün <mic@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:\ [...] >> If necessary, we hide “root" inside @data. This is good. >> >>> @path would be updated with latest ancestor path (e.g. @root). >> >> Update @path to the last ancestor and hold proper references. >> I missed this part earlier. With this feature, vfs_walk_ancestors >> should work usable with open-codeed bpf path iterator. >> >> I have a question about this behavior with RCU walk. IIUC, RCU >> walk does not hold reference to @ancestor when calling walk_cb(). > > I think a reference to the mount should be held, but not necessarily to > the dentry if we are still in the same mount as the original path. If we update @path and do path_put() after the walk, we have to hold reference to both the mnt and the dentry, no? > >> If walk_cb() returns false, shall vfs_walk_ancestors() then >> grab a reference on @ancestor? This feels a bit weird to me. > > If walk_cb() checks for a root, it will return false when the path will > match, and the caller would expect to get this root path, right? If the user want to walk to the global root, walk_cb() may not return false at all, IIUC. walk_cb() may also return false on other conditions. > > In general, it's safer to always have the same behavior when holding or > releasing a reference. I think the caller should then always call > path_put() after vfs_walk_ancestors() whatever the return code is. > >> Maybe “updating @path to the last ancestor” should only apply to >> LOOKUP_RCU==false case? >> >>> @flags could contain LOOKUP_RCU or not, which enables us to have >>> walk_cb() not-RCU compatible. >>> >>> When passing LOOKUP_RCU, if the first call to vfs_walk_ancestors() >>> failed with -ECHILD, the caller can restart the walk by calling >>> vfs_walk_ancestors() again but without LOOKUP_RCU. >> >> >> Given we want callers to handle -ECHILD and call vfs_walk_ancestors >> again without LOOKUP_RCU, I think we should keep @path not changed >> With LOOKUP_RCU==true, and only update it to the last ancestor >> when LOOKUP_RCU==false. > > As Neil said, we don't want to explicitly pass LOOKUP_RCU as a public > flag. Instead, walk_cb() should never sleep (and then potentially be > called under RCU by the vfs_walk_ancestors() implementation). How should the user handle -ECHILD without LOOKUP_RCU flag? Say the following code in landlocked: /* Try RCU walk first */ err = vfs_walk_ancestors(path, ll_cb, data, LOOKUP_RCU); if (err == -ECHILD) { struct path walk_path = *path; /* reset any data changed by the walk */ reset_data(data); /* now do ref-walk */ err = vfs_walk_ancestors(&walk_path, ll_cb, data, 0); } Or do you mean vfs_walk_ancestors will never return -ECHILD? Then we need vfs_walk_ancestors to call reset_data logic, right? Thanks, Song